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He is a leader and a political figure. This blogpost is political (as well as sharing a family photo, which is itself imbued with a political message in that context). Engineer archetypes hate politics and refuse to think about it. For most engineering, there is negligible political dimension. But culturally-transformative technology is inherently political to the degree it's transformative. Altman recognises this. H…
This waters down the definition of political leader to the point of absurdity.
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> In essence, he has threatened to kill millions of people. “In essence” is doing enormous work here, and it will be basically impossible to have any kind of discussion if that work is considered acceptable. This kind of word-twisting can be used to make pretty much anyone into a murderer, at which point “discussion” will come down to who the mob chooses to listen to.
What kind of health insurance does one have when one is employed in the USA? What is the life expectancy of unemployed people vs. employed?
Case closed.
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Which is why this narrative of caring about his family is so absurd. A defense contractor is in the business of war. In supplying the war machine, you should be living in a fortress. Tall walls, check your drink for poison, live in paranoia. Every person in the business of war knows what they are getting in to, and how to protect their family. How is someone that is near the face of AI this naive about such an ancien…
It’s almost like these people believe Being in the business of violence and death is fine. Killing other people, making their lives a living nightmare, etc. Suddenly it’s not ok when a tiny fraction of that violence comes home. Hypocrisy at its most extreme.
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> In essence, he has threatened to kill millions of people. “In essence” is doing enormous work here, and it will be basically impossible to have any kind of discussion if that work is considered acceptable. This kind of word-twisting can be used to make pretty much anyone into a murderer, at which point “discussion” will come down to who the mob chooses to listen to.
>“In essence” is doing enormous work here What kind of health insurance does one have when one is employed in the USA? What is the life expectancy of unemployed people vs. employed? Case closed.
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if every business(man) who lobbies against regulations for their business is a fair game to go after violently (not just her/him but his family as well) there would be a bloodbath of epic proportions… one day, this might be you and your family too…
It already is our families. We don't have healthcare. We live in rentals that enrich others. We take rented scooters to work. We have no retirement funds or futures. Live in slavery and be happy? Hold a sign no one reads? Own nothing? Feel no peace, have no medicine? I don't condone it, but I understand it. I believe there's still the possibility for us to fix things in peace, but I can see why others don't.
You hold Sam Altman responsible for this?!
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These comments have gone beyond Reddit levels and reached Facebook insanity levels.
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#967why do so many worship this guy so much and feel for his pain but then don’t mind others being treated violently.
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#968I don't think I've ever seen a thread this bad on Hacker News*. The number of commenters justifying violence, or saying they "don't condone violence" and then doing exactly that, is sickening and makes me want to find something else to do with my life—something as far away from this as I can get. I feel ashamed of this community. * Edit: It would have been clearer to say "I've never seen a mob dynamic this bad on Hac…
Be honest with yourself -- underneath your admonishments against people here is a personal policy that promotes and enables far worse things than a molotov cocktail or more against Sam Altman.
People talk about war and advocate for war all the time here. Y Combinator itself funds arms companies, and surveillance companies. Altman himself is a defense contractor! How many climate change deaths is Sam Altman personally responsible for?
I live in a country that America has threatened to annex. I live in a part of that country where America money is pouring in to fund a separatist movement to facilitate that annexation. My country is allied with another country that America has threatened to invade.
I'm content to live my life and do my own thing with no intent to cause harm to others, and the goal of minimizing the harm I do cause but apparently that is a luxury I am not afforded in life. So what do I do? I just keep living my life the best I can and hoping something changes in the national dynamic in America.
If that means Americans start squabbling and attacking their oligarchs instead of attacking me so be it. It's not the world I want to live in either, but it's better than a world where Americans are focused and united on attacking me.
Have you ever shed a single tear for a Russian oligarch who 'falls out a window onto a pile of bullets?' I doubt it. That's how I feel about Altman.
Just be honest Dang. We're all living in sin here. We're all entwined into an economic system that is built off of slavery and theft.
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
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Holy shit how is this the first time I am hearing about this? This should not be my first time hearing about this. > Suchir Balaji (November 21, 1998 – November 26, 2024) was an American artificial intelligence researcher who was found dead one month after accusing OpenAI, his former employer, of violating United States copyright law -Wikipedia
There was a Tacker Carlson interview with Sam Altman where Tacker probed him on Balaji's murder and Sam quickly got confused and disoriented. Make your own conclusions.
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> Didn’t we just go through several weeks of hearing about OpenAI allowing its tech to be used for conducting warfare? Unfortunately warfare is a thing. Why wouldn't you want the best technology used for your country when conducting warfare? Or do you just believe warfare would cease to exist if a country gave up any means of defense or offense?
Can we at least drop the sports games terminology ("defense", "offense") and acknowledge we're talking about mass killing of people here?