TBH as an outsider, I am just so frustrated on Trump deciding that US invading Iran large scale is a great idea. (And why even is it involving Israel for gods sake?!) If you guys wanted to be supportive to the Iranian protests, US could instead just selectively target some of the leadership and give the protests a push (and give the whole world a hint that US is supportive of them). After 40 years of Iran constructin…
US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire
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#962It's disheartening to hear people talk about this in terms of won and lost. Is that how you think of these events? I think of them in terms of sadness and horror. The US threatened to obliterate a country and people, because gas was getting a little expensive. If winning and losing is the way you are framing this, instead of thinking about the humans that these actions affect, then we all have lost.
That doesn’t align with the perspective of actual Iranians I know. There are news reports of Iranian expats and opponents within Iranian who are disappointed with the ceasefire. They wanted trump to go further and destroy the regime. That aligns with conversations I’ve had with Iranians friends in the US and family members within Iran who want the regime destroyed so there is a chance of removing the Islamic theocrac…
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#963It's disheartening to hear people talk about this in terms of won and lost. Is that how you think of these events? I think of them in terms of sadness and horror. The US threatened to obliterate a country and people, because gas was getting a little expensive. If winning and losing is the way you are framing this, instead of thinking about the humans that these actions affect, then we all have lost.
That doesn’t align with the perspective of actual Iranians I know. There are news reports of Iranian expats and opponents within Iranian who are disappointed with the ceasefire. They wanted trump to go further and destroy the regime. That aligns with conversations I’ve had with Iranians friends in the US and family members within Iran who want the regime destroyed so there is a chance of removing the Islamic theocrac…
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#964Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn’t align with the perspective of actual Iranians I know. There are news reports of Iranian expats and opponents within Iranian who are disappointed with the ceasefire. They wanted trump to go further and destroy the regime. That aligns with conversations I’ve had with Iranians friends in the US and family members within Iran who want the regime destroyed so there is a chance of removing the Islamic theocrac…
Those news reports must be so trustworthy (!). They drunk the kool aid and propaganda just like Iranians of the opposite idea. But the difference is your Iranian friends probably never lived in a day in Iran.
All my in-laws live in Tehran. They’re all anti-regime.
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#965Pinning this right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack
I hate bombing as much as the next guy but areas close to military structures, especially to ones that have already been bombed during the last 24 hours, should have been evacuated.
That's the exact same time the other buildings were hit. It was all part of the same strike package. The school was hit directly, not accidentally, and The Guardian has previously reported on evidence that these targets were selected with AI assistance
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Posts like this from the HN community are almost surreal. Any review of the actual deal would show a two week ceasefire in exchange for the strait being open and safe while negotiations continue. This 10 point plan is just a place to start talking, no country has agreed to anything on it. How is this missed on the community here?
Welcome to HN where users with little domain knowledge make comments of utter certainty about any topic under the sun.
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Maybe. I'll wait for confirmation from sources outside of the usual "fast news" channels like X, which are full of disinformation.
Part of this "fast news" channel also includes POTUS's incessant "Truths" which are also full of disinformation even about his own administration. Really hard to find facts these days!
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> 2. Continued Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz > 6. Termination of all United Nations Security Council resolutions against Iran > 7. Termination of all International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors resolutions against Iran These seem remarkably outside the USes power to unilaterally agree to. The first violates international treaties and while I'd be thrilled with the precedent as a Canadian eyeing my…
> The first violates international treaties Yeah, but USrAel never ratified UNCLOS. Iran is in the same boat.
It's usually the US and a bunch of garbage regimes on these lists, I guess there was a message being sent over time.
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#970Whats the irans citizens feel about this while thing. As an outsider I see there was lot of protest against islamic regime with the killing of young girl for not covering the head or something like such. But after trump killed the leader it seemed people rooting for islamic regime. Whats the state of people. Is there a way to know
If I was an Iranian citizen, I'd be seeing America as a nation of racist sociopaths. This conflict entrenches the current Iranian regime and manufactures consent for Israel and the United States to violate even more conventions of warfare to avoid a ground deployment. The intended result is obviously the balkanization of Iran.