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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by trashb »

FreePalestine1 wrote: post #777

I will go against the grain and say that I am happy that Discord is doing something about the NSFW content that is being fed to children on its platform. I don't use Discord that much personally but I heard from friends that it is a goto for NSFW content, similar to reddit. Every time the topic of ID for 18+ content comes up, the entire internet melts down over "big brother" and "privacy", yet no one flinches at pres…

> We as a society need to do something about the unprecedented levels of porn addiction in today's youth. "Enter your date of birth" prompts are performative and do nothing.

I agree, however show your ID is just a "Enter your date of birth" prompt with obfuscation.

Buying alcohol is physical and therefore has some advantages, for example you can be sure that your ID is not copied/sold as you are there and get it back.

In another comment the idea was presented to make a "I am adult" card you can buy (physical like the alcohol). I think that would work a lot better than upload your government id and face to random app/website.

Maybe I'm old school but I was always told "don't make a copy of your ID" by the government, a photo was included in that definition.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by trashb »

Madmallard wrote: post #839

Well I've spent the better part of 7 years building a community on my own discord server with dozens of friends, many of whom I interact with daily in voice. So... what now? I just have my life literally turned upside down because of a greedy surveillance state?

Move the community over to a platform where you actually own the server. There are self hosted alternatives. (or pay a hosting provider to run it)

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by TheAmazingRace »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Hi tabbott. Thanks kindly for offering to answer questions. :)

I signed up on your site just a bit ago, but I'm a bit concerned with the paid upgrade. Unlike Discord, I need to pay per user, which I find onerous and would get out of control fast for the group I run with around 100 members. Is there any plans for a flat fee model? I'm even happy to pay twice what I pay for Discord Nitro, but yeah, $8/mo per user is too expensive.

If it helps at all, it's for a retro computing community group, and not for profit.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by boca_honey »

seanw444 wrote: post #566

I've needed a nudge to cancel my 5 year Nitro streak. This was it. I guess if they reverse course before March when the billing cycle is over, I'll renew. Hope I'm not alone in this. The only way they'll decide to not move forward with this is if enough people do the same.

So you'll still use Discord, just not Nitro?

If cancelling your premium sub is all you're willing to do, it means you're not being militant enough.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by RulerOf »

mkaic wrote: post #428
anon_cow1111 wrote: post #239

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

Just cancelled mine after reading this comment, I only really cared about the bigger file uploads and the HD screen-sharing anyways and I can live without those. Now that I think of it, I bet I could host a decent instance of some open-source alternative in a public cloud for around the same cost as what I paid for Nitro ($100 a year)...

>I only really cared about ... the HD screen-sharing

I bought and canceled nitro in a single day because it's a bad product.

They promise HD screen-sharing, but it's only for _my_ screen. When I hopped into a call, the other user's screen share is illegible. Higher quality is still locked behind a "Buy Nitro" message.

If I'm paying for an improved experience, I should be able to get it.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by bilkow »

TheAmazingRace wrote: post #963
tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Hi tabbott. Thanks kindly for offering to answer questions. :) I signed up on your site just a bit ago, but I'm a bit concerned with the paid upgrade. Unlike Discord, I need to pay per user, which I find onerous and would get out of control fast for the group I run with around 100 members. Is there any plans for a flat fee model? I'm even happy to pay twice what I pay for Discord Nitro, but yeah, $8/mo per user is to…

Not affiliated with Zulip, but have you checked the "Free and discounted Zulip Cloud Standard" info on their help center? https://zulip.com/help/zulip-cloud-billing#free-and-discount...

Sounds like you could be eligible for free or for a significant discount. Also:

"If there are any circumstances that make regular pricing unaffordable for your organization, contact sales@zulip.com to discuss your situation."

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by tourmalinetaco »

arkh wrote: post #74
bramhaag wrote: post #20

What realistic open source alternatives to Discord are there? I'm currently considering moving to one of these with my friend group: - Matrix - Stoat, previously revolt ( https://stoat.chat/ ) - IRC + Mumble - Signal

One thing most of those lack is an easy way to share screen. Now if anyone wants to differentiate their Discord alternative, they want to have most of discord functionalities and add the possibility to be in multiple voice chats (maybe with rights and a channel hierarchy + different push-to-talk binds). It's a missed feature when doing huge operations in games and using the Canary client is not always enough.

I use MiroTalk for it. Within Element you can set up widgets (basically PWAs) and so you can call via Element’s built in Jitsi widget (or a more reliable dedicated Jitsi link) and then use MiroTalk to share screens. It is a LOT better, especially for streaming video.

In terms of ease of use, it’s like three clicks. Technically more than Discord, but it’s p2p streaming so it’s far nicer quality.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by tourmalinetaco »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #35
bramhaag wrote: post #20

What realistic open source alternatives to Discord are there? I'm currently considering moving to one of these with my friend group: - Matrix - Stoat, previously revolt ( https://stoat.chat/ ) - IRC + Mumble - Signal

Does matrix have decent 1:N client desktop broadcasting with low latency (and high fps) yet? I use discord for "watch parties", video and tabletop gaming...

MiroTalk can be made into a widget on Element, is open source, and is P2P after the initial connection.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by Nasrudith »

safety1st wrote: post #768
anon_cow1111 wrote: post #239

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I read the announcement and other than the risk of a slippery slope into more invasive ID demands, I'm not sure I have a huge problem with it. The default experience will be the "teen" experience - they list what that entails - stuff that's flagged as adult/NSFW/etc. is blurred out until your age is verified, which for most(?) people will require ID or face scan. DMs/friend requ…

Why do you want the children to grow up in an Orwellian dystopia?
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