Wait, I thought illegal immigrants don't have medicaid? Weird.
ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data
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#962Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do their loyalties lie? In Germany and Israel?
You think that people who were not born in America cannot be trusted / are not moral?
The argument is that people who are born outside and come in, but instead of embracing our ideals, seek to do America harm, import bad ideals (like misinformation in the case of Murdoch, hunting innocents in the case of Karp, and racism in the case of Musk), should be called out and shamed. Fox News and ICE have done great damage largely enabled by the infra these immigrants set up. They also seem to promote hate against other immigrants (Chinese, muslims, etc). I think we often do not call out Musk and Murdoch for the damage they did. And given they are not American by birth, I do question their loyalties because their actions reflect a willingness to siphon money out of America and do us harm.
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#963Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've lived in several civilized in Europe, and they don't do raid like it is happening in Minnesota. What is happening in Minnesota makes the front pages in Europe, and a lot of people are saying that according to them, it will never be possible here (I'm not sure I agree with them, but it shows that the idea that the ICE methods are "the usual way to deal efficiently with immigration" is totally crazy). I guarantee…
I really don’t understand why there are so many people in the US hellbent on doing everything they can to support illegal immigrants.
They are not. They want illegal migrants to be processed and deported if they are illegal. What they are complaining about is the fact that current, people are "marked" as illegal (or fail to be regularised) for arbitrary reasons and the process is not fair. Imagine if you were doing everything correctly as much as you can and still being treated as a thief? It does not give you a fair chance. You can be marked as illegal just because of quotas or because you had bad luck and the officials did not read your file, or because you did not do something that no one told you you should do despite the fact that you ask, or because you followed the proper process and ask what you should do and the person you asked decided to arrested you, ...
All of this happens in western countries (maybe not all in US). Immigration processes are just really badly designed. Look it up, it is crazy: from some countries, the only way to be considered as "legal" require you to be "illegal" during to the time of the admin process. Even if you pretend that it just means they are just not accepted, it does not make any sense: in this case, why the process does not say "no, sorry, from this country, no one can be legal". But the process is "you want to be legal, good, come to my country and walk this way. Oh, by the way, now that you are here, you are technically illegal, let me arrest you".
The reason is that the victim of the bad design cannot complain because people say "they are illegal anyway, so their voice does not count". For this reason, some citizen noticed that the system is just stupid, and just ask that for each illegal person, we give them a chance to demonstrate if they are really not fit to be regularized. But right now, the whole system is just a waste of money, and some idiots are trying to defend it just because they are too lazy to consider fairness and justice.
edit: if you want more concrete information on why the immigration system is unfair, badly design and waste your money, you can watch John Oliver on youtube about "legal immigration"
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#964Dang was this article manually unflagged ? The comments are just angry insults and a good reason the flags should have been left on.
Hopefully.
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#965Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that by the time some people encounter these shocking images and videos of mass human torture, their priors have already been developed to reject their eyes and ears in favor of what the people with whom they've entrusted their safety tell them. These people think Charlie Kirk was on the frontlines of personal freedom, but look the other way when a man gets tackled and shot in broad daylight for trying…
Yes.. do I get to get between DEA and their intended target? No? If not, why not. If yes, why yes? The framing is silly. The death may be tragic and very much avoidable, but it was avoidable on both ends of this interaction. There is no comparison to Kirk here at all. He came to talk to people. Pretti went there as part of a signal group coordinating to obstruct a federal enforcement agency.. Ngl.. how people choose…
Anyone who stands up to a tyrannical government and a wannabe dictator's secret police is a hero to me. He died a hero. He was helping a woman who was being maced by a group of lawless masked thugs masquerading as law enforcement who are unwelcome in the neighborhoods they patrol. Any other perspective requires being ignorant of the context.
ICE is a rogue organization, our Executive and Legislative branches have gone rogue; our government no longer works for us, it works against us, and any attempt to validate the actions of this fascist attack on state sovereignty is seen exactly for what it is. There are too many video angles for you to see this tragic death as anything other than what it is.
You're right that there was no comparison to Kirk here. Alex was actually on the frontlines, intentionally putting his life on the line for human rights.
Yet, Kirk himself would have absolutely been appalled at how the US government has treated the rash of shootings in Minnesota, and how they're now being used once again to assault our first and second amendment rights. He would not be siding with ICE or Trump on this one, but since he's dead they can parade around his image and make his fan base believe this is all somehow fair and warranted.
Grow a spine.
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#966Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you're not an "illegal" when you drive with an expired license are you? You are. Why do you think licenses have expiration dates? It legally authorises you to perform specific activity within specific timeframe. Any activity without license is illegal. By same logic you can't stay in the house you legally rented previously. Surprised those simple concepts need elaboration.
No, you're being intentionally oblivious to justify something negative. You have done something illegal, that is not in contest. But people are not labeled "illegal" when their license expires. They're called out based on the specific thing they did. You can say "this person migrated illegally", that's different than saying "this person is an illegal", as if their very existence and presence is illegal, that's the in…
Normally I wouldn't dignify the emotional word salad with a response, but it is important to state few things.
You conceal substance beneath a pile of semantic shenanigans. If someone stays in the country illegally, their presence in the county is illegal and law enforcement on that matter is warranted. You can call them saints if you like, it still doesn't make their presence legal. No matter if they entered the country legally and overstayed their visas, or plainly entered the country illegally. No matter how much leftist media make emotional appeals and frame it as "child dying" or any other sorts of manipulations you are trying to parrot as well - it remains illegal.
There are NO US citizens detained or "abducted" by ICE, provided they comply with due procedure for establishing their legal status. You are lying. There are possibly cases where ICE had to do checks on people who decline to confirm their status, which warrants further investigation.
I appreciate your concern regarding myself being called illegal, but let me assure you I am totally fine and will be totally fine, even being not a US citizen.
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#967Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, you're being intentionally oblivious to justify something negative. You have done something illegal, that is not in contest. But people are not labeled "illegal" when their license expires. They're called out based on the specific thing they did. You can say "this person migrated illegally", that's different than saying "this person is an illegal", as if their very existence and presence is illegal, that's the in…
Normally I wouldn't dignify the emotional word salad with a response, but it is important to state few things. You conceal substance beneath a pile of semantic shenanigans. If someone stays in the country illegally, their presence in the county is illegal and law enforcement on that matter is warranted. You can call them saints if you like, it still doesn't make their presence legal. No matter if they entered the cou…
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#968Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here are a few. https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118565/documents/... https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a... https://winslowlawyers.com/uk-man-arrested-for-malicious-com...
These are ALL about the UK, including the “congress.gov” link.
My apologies. I thought you were asking on a different branch ( about the USA). The misunderstanding is my fault.
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#969I summarized all comments using LLM for better reading: https://hn-discussions.top/palantir-ice-medicaid-surveillanc...
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#970Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It all comes back to women being treated as full people. What does this actually mean? Do you mean "get a job instead of having kids?" Working to afford life instead of having kids seem much less humanising, if anything. Being a wife and mum is being a full person, and the main thing that's bad about it is if you are a full-time mum your spouse has to work incredibly hard to compete on the housing ladder against al…
I meant that they get to choose whether and when they have children, and can have full careers. Think about it in terms of opportunity cost: much over a century ago, women were expected to marry and be wives with a handful of exceptions like religious service. They did not have many opportunities for education and there were limited opportunities for independent employment with entire professions off-limits. When tho…
> much over a century ago, women were expected to marry and be wives with a handful of exceptions like religious service. They did not have many opportunities for education and there were limited opportunities for independent employment with entire professions off-limits
This was the case for most men as well, except they sometimes had to go and die weeping and in pain in a foreign field rather than stay at home and do what for most people is the most rewarding thing in life.