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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

moltopoco wrote: post #786
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #765

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I stopped using Brave after they began to shove ads into the splash screen.

That is also easily disabled. I think there are five or six things that I need to disable in a fresh Brave installation and then it's perfect.

They also support Group Policy and JSON based configurations, depending on the OS. So you could install a config that disables a lot of that before you even install the Brave Browser.

Heck, they could probably sell that as a premium/business feature for extra funding (hint hint if anyone from Brave reads this).

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

mschuster91 wrote: post #224
rdm_blackhole wrote: post #210

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> The moment Mozilla failed to stop being dependent on Google's money whilst being true to their own mission in being a 'privacy first browser' it already was the end and the damage in trust was done. I understand your position but what is the alternative funding source that could keep a company making a free browser running? Apple funds Safari's development but it's basically a side project for them, Google funds Ch…

> Apple funds Safari's development but it's basically a side project for them, Google funds Chrome's development as side project to their ad business, Edge is the same for Microsoft. Edge is a Chromium fork so essentially they don't have that much work in keeping up.

Edge still has a ton of stuff specific to Windows in it, mostly for business/enterprise use. It is probably the most no-code configurable browser out there if you go through Group Policy, with an effective guarantee that all of those settings will work (including the settings that disable all Telemetry data collection - yes those exist).

The 100% no-code part of the config process is something I have not seen largely in competing browsers - even Chrome.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

nottorp wrote: post #782
Seattle3503 wrote: post #553

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How man large software projects do that? Blender and...? Mozilla would have to become like Wikipedia, with a large fundraising focus. Its not like Wikipedia evades criticism for that approach.

I think Firefox has a sizable minority of users that are aware of its importance and would donate for "a fucking browser". Tbh I would also donate for a nagging team that publicly pressures various corporate sites into continuing to support firefox (like my cell phone provider, i can't download invoices with FF since 3 months). What I wouldn't donate for is "me too" initiatives like "AI" and corporate bullshit. Or ev…

> I think Firefox has a sizable minority of users that are aware of its importance

Agreed.

> and would donate for "a fucking browser".

Hard disagree. Especially when you consider that much of Firefox's use likely comes from countries that tend to opportunistically freeload whenever they can. Idk if your donation-only idea would even work for the US and Canada alone.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

worik wrote: post #311
reinar wrote: post #287

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> i wonder how linux does it? they don't? There's no company, or rather - a lot of them, Linux kernel moves forward like 80% by corporate contributors. For some of them it's critical part of their infrastructure, some of them need to get their device drivers mainlined, for some of them it's gpl magic at work. Linux desktop experience, however, leaves a lot to be desired. Companies aren't interested to contribute to a…

> Linux desktop experience, however, leaves a lot to be desired. No, it does not. It is a wonderful world fill of variety, choice and diversity

> It is a wonderful world fill of variety, choice and diversity

Desktop Linux is a dysfunctional dumpster fire that cyber bullies anyone that even suggests building code to a specific OS.

Remember that Linux is just the kernel, not the whole OS. The fact that a program written for Ubuntu, for example, can even run on another Linux based OS is a happy coincidence and should not be an expectation.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

mmooss wrote: post #718
dabockster wrote: post #627

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Firefox is still heavily used by Linux OSes as the default browser. But I think that's mostly momentum at this point. If more people knew about Mozilla's organizational challenges, then I think Firefox would get ditched.

If they like the browser, why would they care about organizational challenges? Do Google's organization challenges cost them Chrome users?

> Do Google's organization challenges cost them Chrome users?

On the Enterprise side at least, absolutely.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

Arathorn wrote: post #570
Yoric wrote: post #552

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FWIW, I remember when Mozilla started experimenting with AI, and that was way ahead of the curve (around 2015, iirc?) But yeah, I agree that buying a great email provider would be a very interesting step. And perhaps partnering with Matrix.

On the Matrix side we would love for Mozilla (or MZLA) to become a paid Matrix hosting provider. Element has ended up focusing on digitally-sovereign govtech ( https://element.io/en/sectors ) in order to prevail, and it's left a hole in the market.

> Element has ended up focusing on digitally-sovereign govtech (https://element.io/en/sectors) in order to prevail, and it's left a hole in the market.

And unless they have verifiable testimonials, I'd take their reach with a grain of salt. Anyone can plaster a bunch of public domain government and defense logos all over their website.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by Dylan16807 »

dabockster wrote: post #960
Dylan16807 wrote: post #716

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> which obviously is likely to have changed/evolved now that we're a decade later I refuse to make any assumptions there. Either he says he changed, or I treat him like he hasn't changed.

> Either he says he changed, or I treat him like he hasn't changed. That kind of attitude is why things like right to be forgotten are being pushed. The world isn't set in stone.

Right to be forgotten is fine for people who aren't celebrities. If you want to be forgotten then don't have a CEO job at a huge company.

Also it generally applies to situations where people are associated with a crime and either there wasn't enough evidence or they already served their time. Neither of those is true here. He has faced nothing except people being mad at him for something he definitely did.

It would be so easy for him to say he changed. Why should I pretend it never happened if he won't do that little thing?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by slau »

holowoodman wrote: post #626
slau wrote: post #547

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I'd love to be able to modify JS at runtime on random websites. Too often there's a bug, or a "feature" that prevents me from using a service, that I could fix by removing an event or something in the JS code.

That's what development tools are for. Or Greasemonkey/Violentmonkey.

As far as I know neither Firefox nor Chrome allow you to modify the JS prior to execution without a plugin. You can run random JS, sure, but you can’t monkeypatch.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by aucisson_masque »

ksec wrote: post #378
aucisson_masque wrote: post #257

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Safari use less CPU power than Firefox, chrome being the worst of them all. It's even more obvious when watching video where safari will be 5 to 10 points lower than Firefox. Harder to say when it's rendering page but the fact of the matter is that I tried both for years, Firefox always drain the battery faster.

>It's even more obvious when watching video where safari will be 5 to 10 points lower than Firefox. Safari uses macOS for video so the points will be on macOS. Firefox uses it own internal video decoder. That is why image and video codec support on Safari is dependent on macOS upgrade not Safari.

My CPU counter doesn't differentiate between all processes, it shows the total CPU used at a given time. Using safari makes it go lower.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by BrendanEich »

prepend wrote: post #383
pseudalopex wrote: post #361

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How many engineers are enough to make a browser? How do you know? Vivaldi employ 28 developers and 33 others to make an unstable Chromium fork and email program.[1] Bloat and bullshit features to you are minimum requirements to someone else. [1] https://vivaldi.com/team/

Brave has about 300 employees and don’t break out engineers [0]. One of them is Brandon Eich so that counts for a bunch. Their revenue is only $52M so kinda what Mozilla would earn off their endowment. [0] https://getlatka.com/companies/brave.com

That's all b.s. of the ripest kind.
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