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Re: Google Antigravity

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Yeah I've used it today quite heavily and I genuinely feel it's given me the best AI workflow yet, and I say this coming from Jetbrains + Claude Code. Personally I felt having immediate access to the VSCode extension ecosystem to be a huge boon and I quickly got a setup to my liking.

Have you tried Cursor though? To me, that is the system to beat.

I haven't no. I could be wrong but I always saw Cursor as more of a low-code tool whereas Claude Code + IDE as the more professional combo.

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I've been using it today and honestly I'm impressed. I seem to be the exception when I say I don't care it's a vscode fork. Having access to the extension ecosystem seems like a boon to me and I could quickly get a setup to my liking to rival my current Jetbrains Claude Code setup. It seems to streamline my existing Claude Code workflow with a much better UI. The tab complete seems the best I've experienced and the t…

How is it compared to Cursur though?

I haven't used Cursor sorry.

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I strongly disagree. Firstly, the barrier to entry lower for people to take web experience and create extensions, furthering the ecosystem moat for Electron-based IDEs. Even more importantly, though, the more we move towards "I'm supervising a fleet of 50+ concurrent AI agents developing code on separate branches" the more the notion of the IDE starts to look like something you want to be able to launch in an unconfi…

> Firstly, the barrier to entry lower for people to take web experience and create extensions, furthering the ecosystem moat for Electron-based IDEs. The last thing I want is to install dozens of JS extensions written by people who crossed that lower barrier. Most of them will probably be vibe coded as well. Browser extensions are not the reason I use specific browsers. In fact, I currently have 4 browser extensions…

> Besides, IDEs don't "win" by having more users. The opposite could be argued, actually.

The most successful IDE of all time is ed, which is enthusiastically used by one ancient graybeard who is constantly complaining about the kids these days.

Nobody has told him that the rest of the world uses 250MB of RAM for their text editor because they value petty things like "usability" over purity. He would have a heart attack - the last time he heard someone describe the concept of Emacs plugins he flew into a rage and tried to organize a death panel for anyone using syntax highlighting.

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As someone who used to work there, Google will never get product releases right in general because of how bureaucratic and heavyweight their launch processes are. They force the developing team to have a huge number of meetings and email threads that they must steer themselves to check off a ridiculously large list of "must haves" that are usually well outside their domain expertise. The result is that any non-critic…

Spot on. I would suggest a slightly different framing where the antagonist isn't really the "approving" teams but "leaders" who all want a seat at the table and exercise their authority lest their authority muscles atrophy. Since they're not part of the development, unless they object to something, would they really have any impact or leadership? I always laugh-cry with whomever I'm sitting next to whenever launch an…

Involving everyone who shows up to meetings is a great way to move forward and/or trim down attendees. Management who enjoys getting their brain picked or homework assignments are always welcome.

Re: Google Antigravity

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But Microsoft made VSCode lol, I think being able to gatekeep things like that shouldn’t allow a billion dollar company just reuse all of your code instead of making their own IDE

Most of VSCode (yes, most) is a mishmash of other OSS products, including Google Chromium! By that logic VSCode itself shouldn't exist.

That does make sense.

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Have you tried Cursor though? To me, that is the system to beat.

I haven't no. I could be wrong but I always saw Cursor as more of a low-code tool whereas Claude Code + IDE as the more professional combo.

AI integration into all aspects of the IDE is the killer feature of Cursor for me. Also access for $20 a month to every important model out there, and once you go over your credits, they grant you about another $25 in free credits and then you can work pretty much unlimited in Auto mode where it automatically picks the model for you.

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As someone who used to work there, Google will never get product releases right in general because of how bureaucratic and heavyweight their launch processes are. They force the developing team to have a huge number of meetings and email threads that they must steer themselves to check off a ridiculously large list of "must haves" that are usually well outside their domain expertise. The result is that any non-critic…

Yep, that and (also used to work there) the motivations of the implementing teams end up getting very detached from the customer focus and product excellence because of bureaucratic incentives and procedures that reward other things. There's a lot of "shipping the org chart" -- competing internal products, turf wars over who gets to own things, who gets the glory, rather than what's fundamentally best for the custome…

Hah, that exact transition was my last project there before I decided I had had enough!

The GPM team was hugely passionate about music and curating a good experience for users, but YT leadership just wanted us to "reuse existing video architecture" to the Nth degree when we merged into the YT org.

After literally years of negotiations you got... what YTM is. Many of the original GPM team members left before the transition was fully underway because they saw the writing on the wall and wanted no part of it. I really wish I had done the same.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Still hopeful but the biggest issue for a python user: Pylance

If you manage to even get the Pylance extension to show up (I had to change the "marketplace" settings) it will say: > This extension is not compatible with Antigravity

What the heck am I supposed to do with the Jedi fall back? Legitimate question: Can Jedi even highlight unused imports? Can it import symbols not found?

If Pylance doesn't work, fork it. But the LSP needs to just work out of the box.

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As an introvert, that's a pro, not a con. The burden of human interaction is removed from building.

Being antisocial isn't an introvert thing. I'm incredibly introverted and still love having time interacting with people

They're asocial, not antisocial. Antisociality is a diagnosable disorder and is known for interpersonal behaviours that are actively against a healthy society. Asociality, on the other hand, just avoids social interactions, not actively harming the society.
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