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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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I think the most amazing part of the comments is how much the sentiment has changed over the last 2 years. Is anybody else noticing this?

what are you talking about? The sheer number of 10+ year old hn accounts tirading to defend, downplay and whitewash the actions of Israel in the comments in this exact thread is simply horrifying. .

I'm saying the percentage of this appears different to me

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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See this Tucker Carlson interview with a former US special forces colonel who worked distributing aid in Gaza https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjEMbHXM4Q

the one that was fired for misconduct, begged to get his job back and threatened that he will become their nightmare in case they don't rehire him ? sounds very reliable. https://ghf.org/press-briefing-ghf-addresses-personnel-matte...

GHF trying to wreck his reputation seems like a textbook move.

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Sadly I think you are mistaken to paint it as an irrational Israel lashing out - that's too generous. I think it's quite the opposite - there has been a very clear, cold, calculated strategy - which is to use the conflict as an cover for doing what some in the government have always wanted to do ( and been quite open about it ) - which is to create a greater Israel - drive out all Palestinians from the river to the s…

This is spot on. This has been a recurring practice of the Israeli regime - to take advantage of a terrorist attack or some other pretext in order to take over additional territory and remove the local population. This modus operandi has been practiced since right after the partition resolution at the end of 1947 to conquer Palestinian villages, remove their inhabitants and rase the houses to the ground, and is still…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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What response would you suggest for Israel? My understanding is their civilian vs combatant ratio is lower than comparable urban conflicts. So it’s hard to respond “softer”. Population adjusted, 10/7 was 10x+ worse than 9/11. Challenging to expect zero response. So what else is there?

How come Israel is supposed to respond to Palestinian actions but Palestine isn't supposed to respond to Israeli actions?

this is like asking why democrats have to play by the rules when republicans don't

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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any links for research proving you state?

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move milli…

I presume boosting Hamas over leftist/revolutionary groups meant less support for Palestinian liberation within the population of Europe and maybe in part the US. The reality of religious fundamentalism in Gaza is heavily exploited in Israeli propaganda, it's an effective deterrent still. If Gaza was held by an organization like the YPG/YPJ (Kurdish autonomy regions) Israel would have had far more, earlier resistance from western governments/populations, I think.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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What I find the most jarring about this on a day-to-day being in tech circles is how some of the smartest people I know are not only unwilling to call out what's happening, they're unwilling to acknowledge it to begin with, and some like the triangle man and Collison brothers even support it. The more time I spend in tech the more I realize there's a deep moral rot here covered up by noveau-rich wealth

Who is “triangle man”? Quick google provided no answer.

Guillermo Rauch of Vercel

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Probably because Israel violated the ceasefire earlier this year (that was a sham from the beginning) that lasted from January to March. The first phase of the ceasefire saw an exchange of hostages, but then the Israelis refused to move on to the second phase and broke the ceasefire by bombing Gaza in the middle of the night, killing over 400 Palestinians in one day, including over 200 children. [0] Not to mention th…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Israel's response to Oct 7th has been a major blackpill. Their strategy was, I think, as bad as it could possibly be. In fact, it really seemed, and still seems, like no strategy at all -- they lashed out wildly and extremely destructively, without a clear picture of what the post-war Gaza Strip will look like. Hamas successfully baited Israel into a disproportionate response that killed tens of thousands, if not hun…

> Israel lost the information/media war so damn badly that it may genuinely not recover from this Israel probably came out ahead if all they lost is prestige. They've neutered Iran and become the de facto regional security power. Their weapons and military have been validated, which makes than a desirable trading partner in an increasingly-militarising world. And they're turning into a gas exporter. Worst case, a gen…

Iran being neutered is propaganda that is necessary for the (failed, for now) Israeli plan of regime change.

Iran maintains the ability to build ballistic missiles in large numbers, greatly depleted Israel-US BMD reserves, continues to build even more reinforced nuclear sites. Neutering those capabilities was the main goal of the 12 day war and by most accounts, that didn't work.

Israel did not manage air superiority over the large majority of Iran, instead the majority of strikes over Iran were done using standoff weapons and drones, many flown from within Iran as an act of sabotage.

If Israel truly managed to get air superiority over Iran, the Iranian regime would have suffered the same fate as Nasrallah. But that didn't happen, because while Israel was able to execute a number of deep strikes, the capability to do so was much closer to Russia's ability over Ukraine than, say, the way the US operated over Iraq. And Iran at the same time was able to execute dozens of deep strikes within Israel, but with much less precision - without a much deeper cut to the Iranian MIC it's only a matter of time before the newer, much more precise missiles are built in sufficient numbers to become a similar threat to the Israeli airforce.

There is no reason why China would ever want to partner with Israel on defense anymore. They tried do in the 2000s, and they found that Israel was so deeply and inextricably dependent on US technology and manufacturing for it's military technology that there was almost nothing worthwhile they could get that wasn't so dependent on the US that the US would veto it. Israel's military sophistication is not endogenous to the extent it would be competitive without the US - it's entirely dependent on an extremely privileged relationship with the MIC that allows Israel to stand on the shoulder of giants and produce weapons that are far more sophisticated than would be possible for any economy of its' size otherwise.

An article came out only today on Haaretz detailing how much of the footage and imagery from Israeli strikes were deepfakes or recycled footage. That's not something you do when you've managed to neuter your opponent.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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There was no need to hold real estate expos because the ethnic cleansing was a bit more direct during the Armenian and Assyrian genocide. It was atrocious then and it's atrocious now. There's almost something worse about zionst making it a business now. It's one thing to ethnically cleanse an area out of hatred, it's sick on a whole new level to try and turn a buck in the process.

1 Samuel 15 in the Old Testament describes this situation perfectly. According to the Bible God told Saul and the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites (a familiar term if you’ve listened to Israel refer to the Palestinians as “Amalek”) and all of their cattle as well. “But Saul and the army spared Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves[b] and lambs—everything that was good. These they were unwillin…

Talk about the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon! I just finished reading 1 Samuel this week.

Very interesting insight.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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So criticism is hate? I'm Jewish does that mean I am hateful when I am critical of the actions of the Israeli government? Are you claiming none of the critism is legitimate and its all hate? Is criticism of Israel antisemetic? Because last I checked Israel is not a religion.

My other reply got flagged, please read it. But to add: This specific article is not "criticism". The headline claims Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza. The title, and the article, completely ignores other actors like the government of Gaza (aka Hamas). "How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized" -> is basically a lie. The truth is that Israeli actions contributed to the food situation in the Gaza str…

> The cause of the war is obviously Hamas

This is the biggest lie of all.

Israel started this war long before October 9, and Israel will never end it.

A Zionist Israel can not allow the Palestinian people to exist. Every member of every government that Israel ever had 100% believed this.

This war is part of Israel's DNA, and the total security Israel demands can never be achieved, so the war can never end.

Until significant portions of the political right in Israel are outlawed, and until the entire Jewish population of Israel undergoes deradicalization, we will keep fighting.

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