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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ponector »

geye1234 wrote: post #930
guyzero wrote: post #248

Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…

> The only effect this is going to have is accelerating the offshoring of jobs through more hiring in India, Europe and Canada, which is a net loss for the US. Offshoring can, and ought to be, heavily tariffed.

Do you know what tariff is? How is it applicable to hiring people in offshore offices?

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ponector »

llm_nerd wrote: post #272
guyzero wrote: post #248

Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…

> This is a de facto shutdown of the program Is it? Some AI recruitments have seen 9-figure contracts. $100K is actually a surprisingly well-considered number and would still see the intake of legitimate talents, obviously contingent on the specific details. Indeed, those people wouldn't have to compete with masses of consultant trash and the whole lottery system could be done away with. $100K actually seems perfectl…

There is a separate talent visa, why should they use H1B and pay extra 100k instead of using it?

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by rediguanayum »

rediguanayum wrote: post #710

Also announced today is the Trumpcard, a visa for super wealthy individuals. HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45308778 but is wrongly flagged. Politico is carrying the Trumpcard: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/19/trump-gold-card-vis... and says that it's $1 million for individuals and $2 million for corporations. The Trumpcard website is https://trumpcard.gov/ and is a terrible parody of itself.

It's real. Here's the executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/the-...

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by Animats »

Animats wrote: post #725

The $100,000 fee isn't the real route to a visa. See the proclamation text: [1] (c) The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines, in the Secretary’s discretion, that the hiring of such aliens to be employed as H-1B specialty oc…

Top 6 H-1B visa companies:

    Amazon      14,365
    Tata         5,505 (Tata is an outsourcing company/body shop)
    Microsoft    5,189
    Meta         5,123
    Apple        4,202
    Google       4,181
Watch for activity favoring Trump from those companies.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by l___l »

tenpies wrote: post #556

The Executive Order has now been published: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/rest... If you don't want to read the pre-amble, you can skip straight to the second "Accordingly" to see the details.

"One software company was approved for over 5,000 H-1B workers in FY 2025; around the same time, it announced a series of layoffs totaling more than 15,000 employees. Another IT firm was approved for nearly 1,700 H-1B workers in FY 2025; it announced it was laying off 2,400 American workers in Oregon in July. A third company has reduced its workforce by approximately 27,000 American workers since 2022, while being approved for over 25,000 H-1B workers since FY 2022. A fourth company reportedly eliminated 1,000 jobs in February; it was approved for over 1,100 H-1B workers for FY 2025.

American IT workers have reported they were forced to train the foreign workers who were taking their jobs and to sign nondisclosure agreements about this indignity as a condition of receiving any form of severance. This suggests H-1B visas are not being used to fill occupational shortages or obtain highly skilled workers who are unavailable in the United States."

This speaks for itself.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by hyperadvanced »

l___l wrote: post #966
tenpies wrote: post #556

The Executive Order has now been published: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/rest... If you don't want to read the pre-amble, you can skip straight to the second "Accordingly" to see the details.

"One software company was approved for over 5,000 H-1B workers in FY 2025; around the same time, it announced a series of layoffs totaling more than 15,000 employees. Another IT firm was approved for nearly 1,700 H-1B workers in FY 2025; it announced it was laying off 2,400 American workers in Oregon in July. A third company has reduced its workforce by approximately 27,000 American workers since 2022, while being ap…

Yep. This abuse of H1-B is so obviously egregious.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ozozozd »

ActorNightly wrote: post #505
mister_mort wrote: post #27

If this is truly per application, the companies that try to boost their chances with the lottery by creating multiple applications for the same person are going to get hit hard . Phantom companies that only exist on paper so people can tweak the probabilities are now liabilities. We'll see a rebalancing for sure.

Ah the conservative mindset: When faced with an arbitrarily small, insignificant problem, in lieu of the status quo, the solution he/she advocates is to completely dismantle the status quo without any form and reason instead of actually focusing on the solution. I.e punishment over progress.

To be fair, the true conservative mindset would “not tear down the fence, if you don’t know what it’s there for.”

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ozozozd »

Given the Homeland Security Secretary’s power to make exceptions, I get the sense that FAANG will pay in various currencies such as dollars, fealty and bribes/favors to the administration, get their exceptions and unlimited H1Bs, truly achieving the goal of paying less than market wages, pushing all the wages down.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by mtremsal »

mtremsal wrote: post #246
thelastgallon wrote: post #212

I wonder if this is applied to H1B renewals too?

IIRC technically there's no such thing as a "renewal". It's just a new application that bypasses the lottery. So given the low level of thought that goes into these EOs, the answer is almost certainly "yes"...

I was wrong. They’re attaching the fee to the lottery, somehow.
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