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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Forgejo is a really great self-hosted alternative to GitHub. If you've wondered about hosting your own version of GitHub but have worried it's too hard to set up, I'd encourage you to spend even a few minutes spinning an instance up with Docker Compose and poking around. https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/admin/installation/docker/

How is forejo's git LFS support? I self host gitea (from before the split) but I am considering making the switch. LFS is a must for me though.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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It blows my mind how many computing professionals truly think this is the case. It doesn't take a tech blogger to draw a trend line through the advancements of the past 2.5 years and see where we're headed. The fact that grifters abound on the edges of the industry is a sign of the radical importance of this unexpected breakthrough, not an indication that it's all a grift. To engage in some armchair psychology, I thi…

Where's your evidence though? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It's a weird way to talk about the destruction people livelihood's as inevitable. Like none of this is preordained, we can stop it or impede it.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I've seen enough: as the recognised authority and designated responsible person ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7525256 I'm officially recognising this as the final end of 2010s Cool Microsoft. > 74 points by leoc on April 3, 2014 | parent | context | favorite | on: Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler > Well, here we are then. This now officially the standard play for formerly-dominating computer-platform firm…

I kind of agree, I was there when Apple was showing up at CERN IT trying to sell OS X a great UNIX workstation, and also though .NET was going to be fully open source, and to this day we have to thank the community efforts from Avalonia and Uno, for the actual GUI frameworks that support all major consumer OSes. Also Microsoft lost a big opportunity with Unity (not helping them updating .NET) and killing off XNA, two…

Just wait for the new, kinder, gentler Oracle, that one will be a hoot. Ellison will probably have to be carried out first, unfortunately.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Idk i can think of a long list of awful stuff coming out of ms that is modern. They put fing ads in an os among other atrocities. I put them behind meta on the evilness meter but i think google is less evil which speaks volumes. The only side of ms that i have any love for is xbox but that is also waning with all the studio acquisitions.

Amen. Also, forcing us to tie our local OS into their cloud nonsense is a travesty. Hearing that they will soon disallow updates to those of us that don't capitulate to their cloud-account ransom has kick-started my efforts in formally moving away from Windows. I'd rather lose most games than get a cloud account.

You dont lose your steam games. They launch on Linux

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Forgejo is a really great self-hosted alternative to GitHub. If you've wondered about hosting your own version of GitHub but have worried it's too hard to set up, I'd encourage you to spend even a few minutes spinning an instance up with Docker Compose and poking around. https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/admin/installation/docker/

How is forejo's git LFS support? I self host gitea (from before the split) but I am considering making the switch. LFS is a must for me though.

How big are your datasets? Working on an Open Source git-lfs replacement called "oxen" if you are interested.

https://github.com/Oxen-AI/Oxen

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Well, Forgejo’s Actions are very similar to GitHub’s: https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/actions/actions/ If you want to run a process after each push to a branch or merge into main or whatever, you describe it in a YAML file in that repo. Configure some workers to run those actions and off you go! I use it for things like running tests and applying Terraform changes.

I understand that part. Mostly interested where the runners are coming from? macOS especially is pretty costly to provide runners for, so who is doing that for free?

You provide the runners on your own hardware. Perhaps a Mac mini would fit the bill?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Do you really miss stuff in VS Code's core editor? I mean, coming to think about it, VS Code feels "feature complete", I haven't found in other editors features that I thought "wish I had this in VS Code". Not to justify the whole changelog being about Copilot (isn't it supposed to be a separate extension anyway?), but I guess it's either that or going for a while without updates, or really small changes you'd probab…

Just look at open issues, sorted by most thumbs up: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20st... One that I am interested in is tree sitter syntax highlighting support: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/50140 There are a ton of things that could be done. The fact that you haven't personally needed more features doesn't mean it's "feature complete". Not even close. You just haven't hit thos…

May I ask how you feel about editors like vim/neovim or emacs or helix? I find that the best editing experience is one you can easily customize to support your needs, for me that is neovim but for you it could be something outside of VS Code?

Also shocked to learn VS Code is using textmate instead of treesitter.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Lots of comments here remind me of the time GitHub was purchased by Microsoft. It would be the dead of GitHub. While in fact it got better: GitHub Actions (pretty neat CI system) happend under Microsoft. Free private repos happend under Microsoft. Now this time it could be different. But last time wasn't that bad imho.

Microsoft made the GitHub UI significantly worse by rewriting everything in React. It's now slow and bloated. Copying text from the file viewer is a nightmare. And never ever look at how GitHub Actions work under the hood, you will wish you never became a developer.

What was it before react? I do remember it being much faster.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I think GitHub also doesn't have the same vendor lock-in that other companies do. I am very happy with their service, and I wouldn't want to move off of it. But at the same time there are numerous alternatives and it wouldn't be that hard to switch. Because, as you say, it is pretty much a solved problem, and because of that there are several competitors with feature parity at this point.

At this point you are fighting, "Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft." There are viable alternatives on the market, but GitHub is the known quantity for which conversations are required to use something different.

Right now there just isn't any incentive to move off of GitHub. GitHub is cheap, and it provides a very familiar, extensible, and reliable service.

My point is more that if Microsoft did dig their heels in and make the product worse, it would be very easy for people to switch. Some people would stay because it is the de facto standard, but I think a lot more people than you think would switch, because the switching costs are so low.

My hope is that this acts as a strong enough incentive for them to maintain the quality of GitHub, so we don't have to switch.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Where's your evidence though? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

It's a weird way to talk about the destruction people livelihood's as inevitable. Like none of this is preordained, we can stop it or impede it.

Yes, that's something that makes me very angry. The media and most people talk about this as if its a natural phenomenon that cannot be stopped, when in fact governments and investors are giving billions of dollars to make it happen; and at the same time they're doing nothing to prevent the job losses that have already started.
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