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Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by eldgfipo » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 2:41 PM UTC

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Nuclear proliferation is the only logical response to this administration. Tripling the number of nuclear armed countries will greatly increase the odds of a hot conflict breaking out which risks the safety of everyone in the world. Of course this fairly straightforward calculus seems beyond what trump/musk are capable of and they are actively working to make Americans safer and less prosperous is countless ways.

"The only way to stop a bad guy with a nuke is with a good guy with a nuke."

No good guy ever had nuke.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by bitmasher9 » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 2:56 PM UTC

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I think it’s Eurocentric to imply that China is morally inferior to the US. Yes the United States have more personal liberties, but China has less wealth inequality. While the US is more democratic, we have had many questionable elections in our history. Most notably in favor of the victor, Nixon committed treason by sabotaging peace talks in order to influence the ‘68 election [0]. Giving more recent examples of que…

Nitpick: I assume you really meant US centric and not "Eurocentric", as as you point out european countries are more in the middle of it and look at each camps from a distance while being involved with all of them. In practical terms, we can see how Huawei is not banned in the EU, the EU isn't in a tariff war with China either, while it's also not a clear Chinese ally, also having a independant stance from the US in…

I actually meant Eurocentric because it emphasizes the values of the renaissance and enlightenment writers of Europe.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by foogazi » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 3:04 PM UTC

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Yes! But who is better at it than the USA ?

Things change very fast when things cannot be fixed in any other way. I think you underestimate how quickly things reverse one way or another. Look at Japan's foreign residents number YoY, a nation that have actively hated (hates?) foreigners, but understands how we're going to be depended on them for the next decade due to low birth rates. When every nation fights against each other to prop up their population numbe…

> immigrants will choose the place that's the best for them.

Immigrants have always done this, that’s why they emigrate in the first place

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by legitster » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 4:15 PM UTC

coliveira wrote: post #891

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Per capita income? Percentage of people with education/clean running water/out of poverty? Things that actually matter to the daily lives of people? Yes, China has lifted millions of people out of poverty over the last few decades, but the median person in China is still vastly worse off than the median person in Taiwan.

Chinese people know that Taiwan is only what it is because of money pumped by the US into the little island. It has always been the strategy of Western countries to support little states in the vicinity of enemy countries as a way to contain and divide the nation.

I mean, we are also going to brush past the infrastructure development done by the Japanese when they occupied Taiwan during the Meiji period that made it a valuable island to begin with. Or that Taiwan did a better, more equitable and less violent version of land reform than Mao did. And that Taiwan never expelled academics and didn't attempt the Great Leap Forward.

If so, it would sound like the Chinese people are being mislead about the economic history of the island they supposedly claim.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by error_logic » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 4:19 PM UTC

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Couple notes: 1. I don't like the characterization of "go it alone" because it obviously implies adherence to some kind of extreme that simply isn't represented in reality. No one is shutting down the ports and firing ambassadors; if it were possible to quantify these things (it isn't), reducing global power projection from 100% to 80% is not "going it alone". 2. The true form of "economic largesse" the US has given…

Regarding your #2, yes you're right; the cost of playing world police was at the top of my mind when I wrote that. The other equally important thing in my mind which seems to get a bit less popular attention is trade balances. There are certain countries the US is engaged with where A) the US puts very low tariffs on them and they do not reciprocate; meanwhile B) the US provides some form of economic assistance to th…

> The US is not a one party state so its direction on these questions may be unclear for a while, but I think I know how Trump, Gabbard, Rubio etc. will answer that question as the working class very much put them in office

Endless misdirection of targeted greedy promises and opportunism did. The coins launched right before the election blew through the emoluments clause, and the tweet threatening removal of funding from universities with "illegal" protests is targeting the first amendment along with news organizations that are feeling the pressure.

The opposition will be but a token, and the bargaining power of the average person is the ultimate target for destruction.

Re: TSMC expected to announce $100B investment in U.S.

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Post by UltraSane » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 4:21 PM UTC

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It doesn't freeze which by Russian standards is balmy, an accidental shiboleth that trips up Russians pretending to be American online is they'll mention unprompted "warm water port" as a notable feature.[0] This invasion is partially an extension of their goal of securing Crimea with a more solid land connection rather than the more easily interrupted bridge connection that was their only connection until they pushe…

> an accidental shiboleth that trips up Russians pretending to be American online is they'll mention unprompted "warm water port" as a notable feature. That's just reddit paranoia. "Warm water port" is a term of art which means a port that stays free of ice. It's not about comfortable swimming temperatures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port#Warm-water_port Reddit just uses this as an excuse to say that anybody discu…

It isn't paranoia because for most counties all of their ports are "warm water" and only Russia has an obsession with "warm water ports" and is likely to use this phrase. For most countries it is like saying "car with wheels" it is just redundant.

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Post by error_logic » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 4:22 PM UTC

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Ur delusional to think dems are taking anything

All the data available supports the conclusion that the majority of Americans prefer progressive policies. The problem for Democrats in 2024 was the candidate, and thus, turnout. - Biden won more popular votes in 2020 than any candidate ever (81.2M, versus Trump's 62.9M in 2016 and 77.3M in 2024). - Trump's second term was the first Republican presidential candidate since Bush's second term, 20 years prior, to win th…

You're underestimating how much the media landscape has changed, and the groundwork being laid even within the states themselves.

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Post by amelius » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC

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OK, but I can't help thinking of this quote: "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." And the US didn't start camps after 9/11.

Guantanamo bay man. That’s a camp. They tortured people using something called extraordinary rendition. Civilization is the same everywhere. Utopia can’t exist because of fundamental aspects of human nature. I think the real difference between the US and China is that the US is sort of delusional. They hide the truth of themselves and live under a mirage of moral idealism while Chinese people are fully aware of the m…

GB has a different scale, afaia, and does not have a genocidal component in that it enprisons specific people and not any people from a certain race/origin.

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Post by anon291 » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 5:24 PM UTC

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Many people used to sign up for military service since their ancestors fought on American soil for American interests, and were actually raised under the presumption that this is the main purpose of the American army (or protecting American interests abroad, such as protecting American vessels on international waters). As it's become ever-more-apparent to the group most likely to enroll in the military (conservatives…

No people sign up for the military mostly because they are poor annd lower middle class and that’s their way out. The last war fought on American soil was in 1815 ignoring the civil war and fights against native Americans. Was Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan or either Iraq war about American interests?

I honestly have concluded that the HN crowd is so far removed from normal America that they cannot understand it. If you think people sign up for the military due to poverty and not pride, you are deluded. The vast majority of recruits into the military do so out of sense of duty and pride in the country. Remove either of those, and it's no shock military enrollment has gone down. America has had much poorer times and has experienced periods of much stronger growth than today, and had not had the same recruitment crisis as it does today.

> 1815 ignoring the civil war and fights against native Americans.

Why would you ignore those?

Also WWII was fought on American soil in the pacific. The various guano atolls, as well as the islands of the Phillipines.

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 6:34 PM UTC

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So Norway and maybe Monaco are more successful than the US?

Norway, probably yes. Their population is more educated, and their civil society much better functioning than the UK. Their society is less unequal and (I’m pretty sure) their quality of life figures would be higher. Monaco is just a tax wheeze and playground.

Norway's GDP is driven by their nationalized petroleum business (20 - 35% of GDP)