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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by ccorcos »

archagon wrote: post #853
ccorcos wrote: post #762

The politics in the comments here are really toxic. What’s happening to HN? This is the largest computer cluster the world has ever seen. Can someone please post interesting comments about things I can learn?

This is akin to suggesting that we should have all been praising Microsoft for their achievements back in the day rather than saying a word about EEE, their monopolism, or their enmity towards open source. Or that it’s not polite to bring up the CCP when discussing TikTok. Bottom line: a technology that has the ability to shape human thought perhaps more than any other in history is owned by a man with some truly vil…

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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by UltraSane »

tw1984 wrote: post #153

Karpathy believes that this is at o1-pro level[1]. This again proves that OpenAI simply has no tech moat whatsoever. Elon's $97 billion offer for OpenAI last week was reasonable given that xAI already have something just a few months behind - it would probably be faster for xAI to catch up with o3 than going through all those paperworks and lawyer talks required for such an acquisition. Elon also has some huge up-han…

Will the vast sums of money being spent on Grok ever actually have a positive ROI?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by UltraSane »

mrbonner wrote: post #585

Have you thought of a future where LLM will be fined tune to target advertisment to you? I mean look at search: first iterations of search were pretty simple in term of ads. Then personalized ads came. I wouldn't help but envision the distopia where the LLM will insert personalized ads based on what you are asking for help.

I'm more worried about LLMs with specific political biases built into them. Imagine one that sounds like Conservapedia or the most insane left-wing parts of Tumblr

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by hackyhacky »

programmerpass wrote: post #907
onepremise wrote: post #859

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Most people, based on my experience, would rather support Elon Musk than support a strategy recommended by an individual who believes that the MSM should be trusted. Not to mention that most of your sources to support your points are from far left MSM sources. Your reasoning is exactly why there is so much support for Elon Musk. You probably made more Elon Musk fans just by your post. Most people seem to believe the…

> Most people seem to believe the government is broken and MSM is a huge reason for this.

Is it because Fox News, the most influential channel of the so-called MSM, constantly repeats conservative talking points about the alleged inefficiencies of the government and downplaying the government's important work in protecting citizens?

Americans will soon get to experience what a real broken government is like, and I hope it provides them an education.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by programmerpass »

hackyhacky wrote: post #965
programmerpass wrote: post #907

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people, based on my experience, would rather support Elon Musk than support a strategy recommended by an individual who believes that the MSM should be trusted. Not to mention that most of your sources to support your points are from far left MSM sources. Your reasoning is exactly why there is so much support for Elon Musk. You probably made more Elon Musk fans just by your post. Most people seem to believe the…

> Most people seem to believe the government is broken and MSM is a huge reason for this. Is it because Fox News, the most influential channel of the so-called MSM, constantly repeats conservative talking points about the alleged inefficiencies of the government and downplaying the government's important work in protecting citizens? Americans will soon get to experience what a real broken government is like, and I ho…

MSM is corrupt. That was the point. It does not matter the side.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by drusepth »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #360

Controversial opinion but I think the AI game studio idea is a very good one. Not because I think they will make any money off the games, but dogfooding will lead to so much more improvement than relying on feedback from external customers.

We're 1-2 years into our AI game studio [1] if anyone has more questions on it.

Seeing awesome feedback from players on our demos (and seeing an insane amount of stickiness from players playing even small demos built around generative AI mechanics). Raising now. Hiring soon to move faster. Feel free to reach out - dru@chromagolem.com

[1] https://www.chromagolem.com/

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by drusepth »

zb3 wrote: post #572

I'm a freeloader and it appears that unfortunately Elon is not stupid enough to just give it to me for free.. There's no fair price either since I see no pay-per-use pricing, so.. unavailable for me for now.

What makes pay-per-use pricing inherently more or less fair than unlimited usage from a subscription?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by karparov »

nomilk wrote: post #81
htfy96 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a close friend working in core research teams there. Based on our chats, the secret seems to be (1) massive compute power (2) ridiculous pay to attract top talents from established teams (3) extremelly hard work without big corp bureaucracy.

It was mentioned during the launch that current datacenter requires up to 0.25 gigawatts of power. The datacenter they're currently building will require 1.25 (5x) (for reference, a nuclear powerplant might output about 1 gigawatt). Will be interesting to see if the relationship between power/compute/parameters and performance is exponential, logarithmic or something more linear.

And fun fact, without govt subsidirles, a nuclear power plant isn't economically feasible, which is why Elon isn't just building such a plant next to the data center.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by zb3 »

drusepth wrote: post #968
zb3 wrote: post #572

I'm a freeloader and it appears that unfortunately Elon is not stupid enough to just give it to me for free.. There's no fair price either since I see no pay-per-use pricing, so.. unavailable for me for now.

What makes pay-per-use pricing inherently more or less fair than unlimited usage from a subscription?

I don't use much, so for me this is not a good deal - I'd pay for "unlimited" usage, but make just a few requests daily..

So those who use less pay for those who use more, and I don't see it as a fair deal.

BTW, Grok 3 will be available on x.ai in coming weeks.

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