Live data from Hacker News

Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

scientificamerican.com

961–970 of 980 posts

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#961

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the only things you check are HN, WhatsApp and Discord?

Yes. However I occasionally hop on LinkedIn for its job board, YouTube to watch a tutorial or Reddit when I’ve made something that I wanna share like a project or a meme. Other than that, I avoid these sites like the absolute plague. I virtually never browse them for fun.

So do you check world events? Like geopolitics?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#962
post #945

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim I was commenting on was "you are not going to get neutral news from them." Neither Powell Jobs nor The Atlantic is an ex of Trump.

So close… They are political opponents though, correct?

Wait, so I can’t get neutral news about cancer from an oncologist?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#963
post #945

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So close… They are political opponents though, correct?

Wait, so I can’t get neutral news about cancer from an oncologist?

Is your oncologist leading a controversial campaign against another set of oncologists with opposing views?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#964

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Calls to violence have no place in a civil society. Perhaps as a response to real, physical, violence it would be ok. I also had trouble with all the far right wingers who kept talking about civil war.

A nazi feeling empowered enough to open up and state his ideas is in itself a call to violence.

Or you didn't experience, or don't know what they are, what they think and what they want ; neither the aftermath.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#965

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t this how they win? I mean the people in Germany in 1930 just said , this is crazy , it doesn’t feel right, but hey I have outrage fatigue so the concentration camps are just fine

Much of the German population in the 1930s and 1940s was not aware of concentration camps, and learned of them once the Allies arrived.

Laughably false, camps like Dachau were on newspapers and newsreels. Almost every Germans were aware that they were rounding up Jews and murdering them in camps.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#966
post #963

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, so I can’t get neutral news about cancer from an oncologist?

Is your oncologist leading a controversial campaign against another set of oncologists with opposing views?

No, he just says cancer is bad. But apparently everything needs “both sides” treatment these days.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#967

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just the consequence of the API protests. Despite people claiming it had no lasting impact, admins coming in and making sweeping changes to mod teams replacing them with loyalists, alongside ramping up centralized feeds to serve more ads onto meant content quality took a nosedive. This is obvious in most subs if you actually look at who is submitting the threads (something the app and All/Popular pages hides…

It's wild how bad it has gotten since the election. It's important to remember that free speech does not protect directly inciting violence and it does not protect advocating for the murder of anyone, even a politician. These are generally illegal So what Reddit has morphed into, is an illegal content factory - there has already been a comment or two about it from the government and the Trump admin is not one that is…

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but respect of law and norms is being thrown out of the window. That was the old USA and the paradigm is wildly shifting.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#968

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really would like to know what exactly you consider a "clear difference" between how Usenet and differ conceptually (e.g., ignoring the GUI, the # of users, and mechanics, [e.g., usenet updates diffused around the globe because we didn't have cloud servers]). Please back that statement up with some facts.

"social" implies that relationships between users are a core part of the platform. I can't follow another user or mark them as a "friend" on HN. HN users put a lot less emphasis on who says something and we focus more on what they say. There are exceptions of course, because we have our own share of renowned experts posting here. But for the most part, people don't take note of what username writes a post.

Ah, thanks. That's a good answer. I was coming at it from the discussion angle only. However, both Usenet and HN don't allow you to friend people, like other social media. I see I accidentally dropped the term HN, which makes my question unclear. I still don't see spiritual difference between HN and Usenet when framed around your response, though.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#969

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really would like to know what exactly you consider a "clear difference" between how Usenet and differ conceptually (e.g., ignoring the GUI, the # of users, and mechanics, [e.g., usenet updates diffused around the globe because we didn't have cloud servers]). Please back that statement up with some facts.

1. Centralized control by for-profit corporations (and their investors) chasing perpetual growth 2. Algorithms driving ever-increasing "engagement" to deliver advertising 3. Surveillance capitalism

Sorry, I was refering to Hacker News, not all social media. My question was unclear.

1. HN is centralized, but not for-profit.

2. HN does not drive engagement, AFAIK

3. HN is not surveillance capitalism.

You haven't demonstrated how Usenet differs from HN, but since my question had a typo and omitted HN, I can see how that is confusing.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#970

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Objective surveys" by whom?

Ad Fontes' media bias chart [1] and it's methodology [2] are about as objective as you can be with something as subjective as bias and factuality. 1 - https://adfontesmedia.com/ 2 - https://adfontesmedia.com/methodology/ There are a couple other groups out there too: - https://www.allsides.com/media-bias - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

This has literally zero bearing on the topic being discussed.
Post reply on HN