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Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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I am fine with calling killing Hezbollah operatives bad-ass and am comfortable with the implications. Hezbollah is (was?) very bad, most especially if you were a Sunni in Syria. Fuck those guys. People should stop developing parasocial relationships with monsters.

... I didn't mean to imply anything about you personally, but I think someone could reasonably read this comment that way, so, sorry, I should be more careful.

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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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What swayed me to one side was not looking at the past, but looking at the future. One side is able to develop this land and benefit the rest of the world. The other side is unstoppingly doing damage to others, even in my home country (France), while providing no value whatsoever. What you do with your life matters.

What an absurd thing to say. You could say the same of any oppressor and/or colonizer in history. "Well at least they're doing something useful with the land, the people that are being crushed under their boots are just screaming angrily and acting aggressive. All the oppressed are good for is slave labor and dieing." Lucky many people around the world have evolved their morality beyond 'might makes right'.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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I don't think this is a symmetrical situation. Life in Israel is quite comfortable. Young people have hopes and dreams beyond sacrificing themselves in an eternal war. Palestinians in Gaza have an extremely bleak outlook on the future and effectively no hope that anything meaningful will change in their lifetime, and they feel collectively humiliated by decades of occupation. Sacrificing "everything" is a lot easier…

Did you know that Gaza has shopping malls and waterfront resorts? Did you know that Israel had been opening up more and more jobs for Palestinians within Israel? Until they decided to throw all that progress away on October 7th.

Progress towards what, exactly? Their own state? Or full citizenship of Israel? Or can you think of another acceptable outcome?

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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I am fine with calling killing Hezbollah operatives bad-ass and am comfortable with the implications. Hezbollah is (was?) very bad, most especially if you were a Sunni in Syria. Fuck those guys. People should stop developing parasocial relationships with monsters.

i don't believe in killing anybody no matter how bad they are. i'm not interested in engaging in a debate on the internet with anybody about this belief, especially not the CTO of fly.io, so i don't care to hear why you believe that i should believe that people should die. also, i don't have any parasocial relationship with anybody in the military on either side of this issue, nor any military member anywhere in the…

I'm not the CTO of anything, FWIW.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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> Israel are still currently bombing Gazan homes And Gaza are still currently launching missiles at Israel.

> And Gaza are still currently launching missiles at Israel. Sources please?

read news, lol

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Don't think I'm taking sides. I'm trying to simply look at it from a neutral bird point of view. I think this cease fire somehow legitimises, to the public eye, Netanyahu's strategy of intense attack. It gives the message of "we won't stop until we get the hostages back" and gives the world a reminder of what this is all about, at least according to what he claims. Again, just trying to observe the message

It was never about the hostages. They used the Hannibal directive on 10/7

false. Hannibal directive has nothing to do with hostages

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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> I have never seen so many downvoted comments Must be those pesky chinese or russian bots. Or could it be something else entirely? A chosen group of bots perhaps? > that aren’t dead in a thread before. Give it some time. They start with the downvotes and when things quiet down some, then come the mass flagging of comments.

honestly, one thing I like about this conflict is that euphamistic comments like this don't get you banned anymore. the ostracizing has been diluted so much that its become even counterproductive. everyone can laugh about something as benign as that, as the real frictions have been laid bare for all to see.

> honestly, one thing I like about this conflict is that euphamistic comments like this don't get you banned anymore.

What? It's more likely to get you banned. Not only that, it gets minority and female college presidents fired. Something unthinkable prior to this "conflict".

All one can do is push back against the propaganda and censorship.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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The plurality of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi (aka, Jews who never left the Middle East), at 45% of the population [1]. This isn't about Europeans, or even "race": Mizrahi Jews and their Palestinian neighbors are racially indistinguishable. Ashkenazi Jews — that is, Jews who lived in Europe during the Diaspora — make up less than a third of Israeli Jews. [2] Although if you're dead-set on racial essentialism and blood-an…

Yes and the reason many of the Mizrahi are in Israel and not in all the other places is the Zionists.

I'm fairly certain it's because they were ethnically cleansed from and/or simply murdered in the rest of the Middle East by the surrounding Arab countries. For example, Egypt tortured and dispossessed its Jews, forcing them out at gunpoint while holding their family members hostage so they wouldn't speak to the press [1]. Syria made it illegal for Jews to buy property, own a telephone, or even drive, and then seized all the property they already owned and froze their bank accounts, killing them if they fled [2].

Blaming this on "the Zionists" is like saying America wasn't at fault for seizing the property of Japanese-Americans during WW2 and forcing them into internment camps — it was Japan's fault for attacking Pearl Harbor, whipping Americans into an unavoidable frenzy that can't be condemned. Only it's more absurd, because Israel didn't start the war with those countries — they invaded Israel in 1948 simply for existing!

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Syria

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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This is what happens when there is an unchecked Affirmative Action program for zionists in many industries like tech and Media. Microsoft employees get fired for calling for a ceasefire meanwhile their Israeli counterparts get to gloat about continued slaughter of children with a mere investigation, in Apple, they provide extra support for employees doing time for the IDF while Palestinian employees get fired and Mus…

Amazing that such overt antisemitism is allowed to remain up. Substituting "Zionist" for "Jew" doesn't make it not antisemitism (yes, 90% of Jews are self-identifying zionists, and these are classic antisemitic tropes).

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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A meta level comment for dang, I’m upvoting every comment that is being gang-downvoted…independent of the position. This topic, with roots going back millennia, deserves to have all opinions captured and presented, if nothing more than as a snapshot/wave collapse of where the opposing sides sat in 2025. Noting that, ceasefires are wonderful things.

It's not just gang-downvoting, I've seen perfectly reasonable and civil comments being flagged for no apparent reason. I remain convinced that HN is simply not the place to have a reasoned discussion about this conflict, and probably nowhere on the internet is.

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