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Post by admksx45v65uqpw » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 9:53 PM UTC

parpfish wrote: post #669

marcus_holmes wrote: post #651

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I agree that this is the core question, but I'd put it as: Who Gets To Decide What Is True? With a search paradigm this wasn't an issue as much, because the answers were presented as "here's a bunch of websites that appear to deal with the question you asked". It was then up to the reader to decide which of those sites they wanted to visit, and therefore which viewpoints they got to see. With an LLM answering the que…

I was thinking something similar. I like the google auto-ai summary for little trivia facts and objective things (who played so and so in the movie? How heavy is a gallon of milk?) this is stuff that is verifiable and could theoretically just be queried from some sort of knowledge base. But for anything remotely subjective, context dependent, or time sensitive I need to know the source. And this isn’t just for hot bu…

Post by juunpp » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 9:58 PM UTC

maeil wrote: post #802

juunpp wrote: post #393

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Seems like a good thing to me. - The clickbait, SEO-optimized garbage that today fills 95% of search results could entirely disappear as a business model because they have nothing interesting to offer and the LLM company won't pay for low quality content. - The average Joe blogging on their website won't go anywhere because they aren't profiting from it to begin with. And the LLM linking back to the page with a refer…

> A paradigm shift, but not one that benefits the end user. That's too neutral; the result is worse for the end user. It will be impossible to distinguish injected ads, unlike with Google. Furthermore, as it gives a much more direct "answer", people will also trust it more than a website linked to on Google.

Post by whyenot » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 10:20 PM UTC

beaugunderson wrote: post #962

Just tried the new search mode, asked for a list of odd or unique things to see in Frankfurt. The second suggestion was "Kaiserlei Bunker", a "former bunker turned into an arts space". I googled it and found nothing; asked for clarification, standard "sorry, my mistake, it doesn't actually exist". How does it confabulate even when summarizing web results?

Post by jacobjjacob » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 10:45 PM UTC

whizzter wrote: post #300

This is probably Google's Altavista moment, by making their results crappier by the year in search of Ad dollars everyone has felt that there is a potential for search to be better and once that becomes available they'll be in a continious game of catch-up. Yes, Google has their own AI divisions, tons of money and SEO is to blame for part of their crappiness. But they've also _explicitly_ focused on ad-dollars over a…

Post by wpietri » Fri, Nov 01, 2024, 11:07 PM UTC

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #913

wpietri wrote: post #891

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You're right, this is a key question: > Who Gets To Decide What Is True? For any given statement, the answer up until a couple years ago was, "the speaker". Speakers get to decide what to say, but they're also responsible for what they say. But now with LLMs we have plausible text without a speaker. I think we have a number of historical models for that. A relevant one is divination. If you bring your question to the…

> But now with LLMs we have plausible text without a speaker. Well, it's still a known source, who's competence, biases, etc one can judge just like any human source.