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worldcoin project solves a lot of this when combined with web of trust, however everyone's knee jerk reaction to worldcoin is pretty bad and so it's annoying to even mention it

Worldcoin was intended to solve it but in practice it's not being used that way. Not enough adoption by users or websites. Maybe in the future? I'm a worldcoiner but so far it's just been free money.

i mean it's in its infancy, if there's a critical need for it, which i think there will be soon, i think it'll get more popular

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There are a few available to the public. runway.ai and kling are a couple that I see heavily used on Twitter. I pay for runway right now for experiments and it works. The problem is that maybe 1 out of 10 prompts result in something useable. And when I say useable I have pretty low standards. Since the model pumps out 5 or 10 second clips you have to be pretty creative since the models still struggle with keeping any…

Hi zoogeny (and anyone else here) — you can try our new app Nim to address the Runway problems you describe https://alpha.nim.video We offer both image-to-video (same situation as Runway, need a few attempts to make something awesome) and video-to-video (under the name "Restyle 2.0") - this is our newest tool and is highly reliable, i.e. you can get complex motion (kissing, handshakes, boxing, skateboarding, etc) wit…

Thanks - will look into this more deeply once I am ready to start integrating generation into my tool.

Do you have an API that can be called? Are you interested in reselling your technology through 3rd party tools?

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Consider another angle. I follow a lot of the new AI gen crowd on Twitter. This community is made up of a lot of creative industry people. One guy who worked in commercials shared a recent job he was on for a name brand. They had a soundstage, actors, sound people, makeup, lighting, etc. setup for 3 days for the shoot. Something like 25 people working for 3 days. But behind that was about 3 months of effort if one in…

If the barrier to entry is low for high quality production and anyone is able to make good looking videos, I wonder how audience perception would evolve for judging and valuing what is considered 'good'.

Keep in mind: one of the top selling games for children is Roblox. Our perception of what is "good" is very open to reinterpretation by the coming generations.

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Why are there so many websites that are essentially static HTML that make my phone stutter? The video’s look cool, but I can’t really enjoy reading about them if my phone freezes every 2 seconds.

Not so much stutter here but definitely some layout shifts as images/video elements load :/

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When I was little I used to think it was a shame that I could not show my dreams. I could tell my parents what I dreamt but not show them what I saw (or thought I saw while dreaming). Getting closer

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Turning it into a prohibition-style movement where using AI taints you forever unless your confess your sins and pledge total abstinence seems like the opposite for the group that wants to present itself as a return to sanity and moderation. It would be better to say, "Do what you want elsewhere, but we don't do that here." If you want to go full-radical, bombing a few data centers would probably be more effective th…

Hey, I am not trying to be mean to anyone. We all are forced to use technology more than we could choose too. Some friends and family of mine use AI and I am not mean to them. I just gently talk about it. Even my Macbook has some AI processor in it though I don't use it. There's no condemnation whatsoever, except for some who are really pushing AI.

>who refuse to interact with

Zero-tolerance ostracization is mean. If you're not doing that, and simply setting your boundaries - "I don't like the technology, let's talk about something else" - that's one thing. That's not what you were encouraging people to do in GP. I think we should be concise in our rhetoric, because it does have the potential to create needless conflict.

"But you just said-"

I did. People keep saying that AI is an existential threat requiring the most extreme action to stop. So... do people really believe that? Or are they just saying it? The treehuggers have a whole file on their actions[1]; where are the luddites? Is there really conviction, or just people letting off steam at convenient targets.[2]

[1]: https://www.dhs.gov/archive/science-and-technology/publicati...

[2]: I am not encouraging nor do I condone illegal or destructive acts, I'm analogizing a similar movement and its tactics.

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Hey, I am not trying to be mean to anyone. We all are forced to use technology more than we could choose too. Some friends and family of mine use AI and I am not mean to them. I just gently talk about it. Even my Macbook has some AI processor in it though I don't use it. There's no condemnation whatsoever, except for some who are really pushing AI.

>who refuse to interact with Zero-tolerance ostracization is mean. If you're not doing that, and simply setting your boundaries - "I don't like the technology, let's talk about something else" - that's one thing. That's not what you were encouraging people to do in GP. I think we should be concise in our rhetoric, because it does have the potential to create needless conflict. "But you just said-" I did. People keep…

I do think there has to be some responsibility taken, rather than being "nice" all the time. And I was speaking of a business sense. If someone uses AI in their own work, I fully support not supporting them. That's not social ostracization, that's just good business sense in not supporting a technology that I don't believe in.

So yeah, let me be clear: I absolutely support boycotting people who use AI when it comes to business decisions, and I absolutely support an economic war of attrition against them.

You know what's mean? Creating a technology that takes other people's jobs en masse like AI. But refusing to do business with those who use AI? I think that's fair play, and if it is at all mean, then it's just karma.

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> You are spot on. I've been involved in creating technologies used by film and video creators for decades, so I have some understanding of what would be useful to them. The best video AIs I've seen only seem capable of replacing some stock video clip creation because, so far, I haven't seen any ability to maintain robust consistency from shot to shot and scene to scene. There's also no granular control other than th…

> neural networks, generally, are already fantastically useful in tools Yes, I agree. You've highlighted the distinction I should have included of "prompt-based". There's a vast gulf between these AI-researcher-based concept demos on one side and the NN-based features slowly getting implemented in real production tools. Like you, I've found it challenging to have constructive conversations about AI tooling with anyon…

I think the most vulnerable spots in the industry are in concept art and matte painting, though I also think companies are starting to realize it's not all its cracked up to be. A colleague that also contracts for [big famous FX and animation house we all know and love] said they fired their entire concept art department last year and replaced them with prompt jockeys.... for a few weeks. The prompters could bang out a million "great start" rough drafts in an hour, but then when their boss came around and inevitably said "oh, this one is the one to stick with. Just move this to the right and that to the left and make this bigger and that smaller and make this cloth purple" and they were cooked. They didn't even have the comparatively basic photoshop skills to do a hack job there, let alone make changes by hand-- so they'd struggle with control nets and inpainting and more prompts but the whole thing was one gigantic failure and they were begging the centuries of concept art expertise they unceremoniously booted out the door for forgiveness. And those workflows don't require anywhere near the control that, say, compositing does.

My biggest hope for the professional use of these things is in post-render pre-comp polishing for simulations and pyro. They're so good at understanding patterns and having smooth transitions that they can make a nonsense, physically absurd combination of images blend together perfectly... one of my favorites was a background guy's nose in a sepia toned video was neatly melded into a distant oncoming train. I think that could be really great for smoothing out volume textures and things like that. Given, that probably has more to do with my specialty than anything.

My main problem is that I'm just starting out my career in this field after switching from a decade of python dev work, and then doing some visual design before going to art school where I graduated at the top of my program having mostly concentrated in making cool shit at the Houdini/UE confluence. Two years ago everyone was saying "holy crap you've got the golden skillset," and now everyone's like "oof... hang in there... I guess..." Even aside from the strike aftermath, nobody in the market has any idea what to do right now, especially with juniors, let alone a really weird mixture of junior + senior dev that I am with a few contracts under my belt and a ton of really solid coding experience, but nothing really impressive in the industry itself. Who fucking knows. I think a lot of people in charge of hiring are waiting for a moment where it's going to just be sort of obvious what they need to do, and don't want to hire people into FTEs that are going to be eliminated through ai efficiency gains in 6 months. I don't have a lot of insight into the hiring side of the business though.

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I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

Maybe we should abandon HTTP and create a new protocol just for humans. HHTTP.

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Worldcoin was intended to solve it but in practice it's not being used that way. Not enough adoption by users or websites. Maybe in the future? I'm a worldcoiner but so far it's just been free money.

i mean it's in its infancy, if there's a critical need for it, which i think there will be soon, i think it'll get more popular

US citizens still use paper Social Security Cards. The point where there is a "critical need" recognized by the relevant parties may be further off than you believe.
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