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Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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There’s literally nothing stopping someone from distributing their app as a web app, and no PWA isn’t necessary for distribution.

> There’s literally nothing stopping There's literally apple stopping that. By limiting APIs, by removing the ability to treat them as other apps (home screen icons), by blocking apps that are hybrids etc.

You can add an icon to your home screen as a bookmark to the page. Most of the apps I have feel like web pages anyway.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Oh the horror, it must be so hard for Apple to cave to an open system for these people. What will they ever do without their unbelievable tax on app profits simply for existing on their nearly unlimited real estate, that is, the web?! I have no sympathy for their concerns. I can download apps on my MacBook machines all day from many different sources, and it harms no one. While I understand the associated risks, comp…

have you considered not buying apple products?

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Malicious compliance attempt number 2 from Apple. This is clearly not complaint with DMA and there's no way that Apple doesn't know that. The core issue is that Apple doesn't want to give away the absolute god-like control over how apps are distributed on iPhone and they can't be compliant until they let go. I am guessing this is going to get dragged on with 3rd version of Apple policies coming out soon after they ge…

They're doing stress tests with the law.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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"decelerationist" apparently. > “Decel” is a derogatory slang word used by the e/acc community. From https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/dont-be-a-decel

Thanks. :)

e/accs think if they aren't free to move fast and break things (and/or people) that the singularity won't happen fast enough and that would be doubleplus ungood.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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I wonder why the EU is pushing Apple this hard, and not the other gatekeepers. For example, Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo consoles should now support an external store.

Don't divide your firepower between multiple targets at once. Instead, line them up and knock them down.

Who gets to be Hitler, who gets to be Bin Laden, and who gets to be Toby?

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Oh the horror, it must be so hard for Apple to cave to an open system for these people. What will they ever do without their unbelievable tax on app profits simply for existing on their nearly unlimited real estate, that is, the web?! I have no sympathy for their concerns. I can download apps on my MacBook machines all day from many different sources, and it harms no one. While I understand the associated risks, comp…

I'll go further in one regard: the App Store in fact hurts Apple because it has caused a kind of filtering of apps down to those that are the sleaziest. I used to enjoy exploring the App Store — I resent it now. I'll download half a dozen apps only to delete them within minutes of launching them because of their rent-ware attitude or just plain shitty functionality.

Can you elaborate on that filtering? I agree with you that the App Store is full of chaff, but I don't understand why there'd be a causal relationship between a highly centralized App Store and sleazy apps.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Oh the horror, it must be so hard for Apple to cave to an open system for these people. What will they ever do without their unbelievable tax on app profits simply for existing on their nearly unlimited real estate, that is, the web?! I have no sympathy for their concerns. I can download apps on my MacBook machines all day from many different sources, and it harms no one. While I understand the associated risks, comp…

> If commercial real estate charged XX% cuts of all sales from a business, every business would crumble with enough time

FWIW, at least in the US, this is actually how a lot of commercial/retail real estate works. Every mall or shopping center you visit charges rent based on sales revenue.

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The EU should make a public service announcement. Something along the lines of: "We urge all EU citizens with Apple devices to have an alternate means of accessing critical internet services like banking, to protect themselves in the event we are forced to block all Apple services EU-wide for legal non-compliance." ... then watch AAPL stock drop below NVDA ... ... and Apple come crawling back, suitably obedient.

or more likely learn extremely quickly that their citizens prefer their iPhones to their politicians, there would be protests within the hour if they ever blocked iPhones. Weird to me how common it has become in the last 5 years for people to gleefully cheer for tyranny and control.

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Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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You don’t need any of that to distribute a web app and thus make money.

Strictly speaking, you don't need to distribute anything more than ads to "thus make money" off a webapp. The end-goal of webapps is not to challenge Apple's revenue though, it's to offer meaningful (see: persistent) capabilities that write-once and ship-anywhere. You're being a reductive troll. Stop making bad-faith arguments if that's the only way you intend to contribute to the discussion.

You can use indexeddb today on apple devices to enable some offline functionality.

Calling people a troll? Are you a child?

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Knock yourself out: https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere The Nintendo Switch is a great console for sideloading. There are numerous ports of PC titles like Quake and Half-Life, as well as a library of Homebrew games and modding tools. If you've got an original Nintendo Switch there's practically no excuse not to crack it, unless you intend to play online. Same goes for the 3DS, too. You can now play Virtual Bo…

I want access to the developer program like you get with Apple for $100 / year. I want sanctioned and supported third party app stores. Direct download would be cool as well.

You're in luck: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/xbox-apps/devk...

There's also the Steam Deck, if you hate getting bent-over by third-party OEMs that don't care about you. But considering your affinity for Apple, maybe the console market is right for you.

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