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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by fooker »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #618
zooq_ai wrote: post #327

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Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

Google still has too much internal fragmentation and power groups to offer a single google-subscriber package. I'd say it is one of the most compelling reasons to kick Sundar out and get in someone who can unify google into one consistent and interoperable ecosystem.

I bet they'll eventually let Kurian try this, and he'll destroy what is remaining of Google in the process.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by fooker »

whimsicalism wrote: post #696
chrisweekly wrote: post #648

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> "Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube)." Can anyone help me understand how Apple allows Siri to remain so absurdly incompetent? Last night I watched the latest episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, in which Larry David's Siri interactions devolve into an apoplectic rant -- and part of the reason it was so funny is that it's so relatable. I rarely even try Si…

Apple has very little ML talent. They're basically resting on their laurels in the phone market.

Apple refuses to pay top of the market. They'll have to get really lucky with someone who grows from within.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by windthrown »

summerlight wrote: post #958
windthrown wrote: post #889

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I'm a Google Fi user but have not tried to sign up yet. Would you mind expanding on your point about Fi affecting the ability to upgrade?

https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/14534406#zippy=%... Looks like they got some complaints from Fi users and now they've updated their wording to a more reasonable one; previously it was something like "no, you can't, you gotta remove your Google Fi Unlimited benefits via customer service" or similar.

Ah I see, thank you! Thankfully I am not on an unlimited plan.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by wolpoli »

jraph wrote: post #741
wolpoli wrote: post #693

Now that Bard is Gemini, it's going to be impossible to find any information on the Gemini protocol/Gemini clients/Gemini sites. It's not very nice for Google to use the same name.

Yeah, they keep doing this. Came to say this (I don't quite care about / for the product itself). They introduced Google Meet when Jitsi Meet already existed and is a similar product! It was easy to call it Google Call, or I don't know, figure it out. You haven't ran out of synonyms for Talk yet despite the huge churn. There are certainly sexier possible names than "Meet" too. Or than Gemini. Come on, you can find na…

You are right that Google can't be sued for this. The only thing that the Gemini protocol/Gemini clients/Gemini community could do is rebrand.

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Post by jraph »

wolpoli wrote: post #964
jraph wrote: post #741

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Yeah, they keep doing this. Came to say this (I don't quite care about / for the product itself). They introduced Google Meet when Jitsi Meet already existed and is a similar product! It was easy to call it Google Call, or I don't know, figure it out. You haven't ran out of synonyms for Talk yet despite the huge churn. There are certainly sexier possible names than "Meet" too. Or than Gemini. Come on, you can find na…

You are right that Google can't be sued for this. The only thing that the Gemini protocol/Gemini clients/Gemini community could do is rebrand.

Or wait for Google's "Update on" Gemini. Unclear which of the two options is more efficient :P.

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Post by aagha »

What an absolute cluster of crap software the Android Gemini app is!

Unlike Assistant, when you put in a request, you THEN have to hit the Submit button to make the request go through.

And it can't do things like set timers.

I'm shocked at how such a big company releases such terrible features thrust upon (b?)millions of users and how so called "product managers" are able to keep their jobs and move up the ranks and make millions of dollars in comp.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by rav3ndust »

datavirtue wrote: post #868
crazygringo wrote: post #761

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I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

This. It creeps women out. It's difficult enough getting them to use an AI tool. My wife commented on this when she saw it in Google News. Something about some dude in a medieval pub.

> It creeps women out. It's difficult enough getting them to use an AI tool.

Anecdotally, my wife routinely uses chatGPT for workout and recipe ideas.

She may be a bit of an outlier though, compared to others - she also runs GNU/Linux! :)

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Post by gnicholas »

cruffle_duffle wrote: post #953
crazygringo wrote: post #761

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I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

> Gemini sounds like the space program LOL, maybe I'm a bit jaded but Gemini sounds like some kind of cryptocurrency scam.

With good reason! According to another commenter, when you search for the Gemini app, you get crypto apps before the Google one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39316306

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by mupuff1234 »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Pretty sure gemini will also get replaced eventually with Google assistant branding at least for the consumer facing products, might be still kept for cloud API etc.
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