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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by carlosjobim »

claytongulick wrote: post #479
freediver wrote: post #303

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

My biggest question - and the one that will drive me to subscribe right now is how "harmful" "misinformation" and "malinformation" is treated today, and how it will be in the future. I Do Not Want anything or anyone deciding what is good for me, what I should be seeing, or making it difficult for me to find things I'm searching for, regardless of the content. A search engine should be like the phone company - providi…

Try a search for Alex Jones on Kagi, I think that's a pretty good benchmark.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by 5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV »

janalsncm wrote: post #919
carlosjobim wrote: post #752

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Why isn't it clear? You can try it for free, or even pay for just a month in order to see if the quality is good enough. Then you know for sure if it's worth the price or if it isn't.

Because unless my salary increases by more than $120 as a direct result of using Kagi, it’s not a good use of my money. It’s the same reason I don’t pay for nicer chairs in my office. If a better search engine makes employees more productive, the target customer is the business, not the employee.

I'd wager Kagi has a lot of benefit in learning and finding solutions to issues where you don't know the correct terminology AND in tech where a lot of non-tech content is available (f.e. analytics)

With chairs it's also less of a benefit in regards to productivity but health and comfort. I'm also still rocking a 150€ chair from IKEA, totally viable and comfortable, but I do see the benefit in a chair that has a lot of configuration options because I am slightly too large for mine. Still means one needs to know how to configure it properly (which is 90% of the health change)

Hard to quantify comfortability since it really indirectly affects mentality.

Then again, I'm not really using search a lot when working so Kagi is obviously also nothing for me

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by malfist »

Exuma wrote: post #954
xigoi wrote: post #953

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If 10$ per hour seems like a low wage for you, that explains it.

It is a low wage... it is literally $5 less than minimum wage. And also, nothing I said literally changes at all, whether its $7, 10, or $12.

$10/hr is $2.75/hr _above_ the minimum wage

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by int_19h »

eviks wrote: post #762
sergiosgc wrote: post #746

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No, it won't fix quotes. A quote is an exact match. And please, let it continue to be so.

Please read the question again. What part of "Does it warn you about typos" is about "fixing quotes"???

Quotes are supposed to be for verbatim searches, so having the search engine "fix spelling" (in quotes because a lot of the time it's not a misspelling, just a specialized term or something like that) in them is kinda counterproductive and it's incredibly annoying when Google does that.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by int_19h »

jacurtis wrote: post #433
wyclif wrote: post #420

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They have. It's a lot better now than when they started out. They have incrementally been improving it. The reason why it gets pushed down is because a lot of people have a natural distate for the ads and the fact that it's a content farm. But if you have good ad blocking I don't see the harm in using it as long as you understand what it is.

I think its the same as it has always been. They went from being bad compared to everything else to now feeling good compared to everything else. Basically they stayed static and the rest of the internet worsened around them and our perspectives are now skewed. What used to feel like a spammy content farm is actually not that bad now that we have seen real spammy content farms, like the SO clones that just take SO po…

Way back when they first started, they used to have content that was outright blatantly wrong and dangerous if followed. It's definitely much better in that respect now.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by int_19h »

rambambram wrote: post #630
robin_reala wrote: post #528

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Leaving aside what everyone else said, the thing that rankled has always been a false claim of association with W3 in their domain name.

With W3C, you mean? Because as far as I know W3 stands just for world wide web.

In theory it does, but pretty much nobody uses it in this manner except for W3C, so that is the association for most people who recognize it in the first place.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by int_19h »

pierat wrote: post #207
rg111 wrote: post #50

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I read some days back on HN that even Yandex is better than Google nowadays. And I apologoze for shilling a Russian company, but it is true! For some queries, Yandex is better than Google. I have replaced Google completely with DDG for most searches, ChatGPT for some things, GitHub Copilot for mundane code questions, phind or code.you.com for things requiring more search, and Kagi for things requiring much more searc…

Oh Yandex is AWESOME, especially for tech, porn, and piracy. None of its blocked. I get exactly what I'm looking for. No bullshit. And I don't care if it is Russian. Tells me that the US government wont be buying search history from them, or cooperating in any capacity. Thats actually a double-good.

The interesting thing about Yandex is that it isn't even screening political queries (or if it does, it's not effective at it). Search for "bucha massacre" or "резня в буче", and all the top links are to websites that have factual information on it, not Russian agitprop.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by int_19h »

jchw wrote: post #188
sva_ wrote: post #168

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> 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. This number really varies based on where you live, and there is no pricing model that accounts for this. I suppose it is mostly just aimed at Americans.

Some platforms actually do account for this by having special "developing countries" discounts, or some other euphemism like that. IIRC Gumroad is one that supports this.

The owner has explained previously that they can't really lower it significantly due to baseline costs.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by xnx »

Grimburger wrote: post #413
viraptor wrote: post #74

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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

> it's easy to click "block this domain" Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision. https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...

Counterpoint: That feature has very little utility to all but a tiny fraction of users. Those users can readily find other means (e.g. extensions) to achieve the same thing. In the interest of simplicity, it was the right call to remove this. I imagine it was pitched for its ability to gather feedback on search quality, but the type of people using the feature aren't representative.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by kulahan »

jorams wrote: post #102
kulahan wrote: post #87

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That's awesome that it's so flexible. Can you search using symbols? Like if I'm trying to search "what is %" will it bring back results regarding the percentage sign, or results that start with the words "what is"? That's my major problem with google. Sometimes I need to search info on a symbol, and I don't know what it's called yet, so I have to perform another search, just to perform the one I actually care about.

I've generally found searching for symbols to work quite well. It's a mixture of the two. You can check the results for "what is %" here: https://kagi.com/search?q=what+is+%25&r=no_region&sh=Qd1RlT2...

Thank you so much!
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