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There's definitely a strong element of people here rooting for Twitter to fail because they dislike Elon's politics.
As a software developer, I hate the way he treats his employees. Politics are secondary.
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> The two remaining sites that allow regular people to post and have discussions are being wiped off the internet in time for the next election. By the next US presidential election, there won't be ways to access information that don't go through the "wrong" people first. Hacker News is all that's left, and it's not big enough to be significant. The 2028 election is more worrying IMO, especially since it seems like M…
> especially since it seems like Musk is angling to run for president Elon Musk is not eligible to become president as he's not a "natural born citizen" to the USA.
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People didn’t leave because of the bad decisions. They left because Musk said he wanted “hardcore” people who’d work 80 hour weeks. Turns out masochism isn’t correlated with great engineering.
I think there may be a disconnect between what Musk says and the reality on the ground. Enough so that I, given such a situation, would wait around a little bit to see how things played out before jumping ship. But as I said in my original comment, I’ve sprinted away from toxicity before, and will do so again if it becomes obvious.
The twitter engineers were presented with an opportunity to jump ship and also get 3 months of severance. I think the rational ones, who had a choice took it, leaving employees who didn't consider it rationally, as well as employees on H1Bs who didn't have the luxury to quit without something else lined up
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>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…
Tell me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo without telling me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo. The goals of the organization are mostly a facade. The people running the organization, and their actions, are what the goals of the organization actually are.
But I do work in an industry where even the C-level people usually (not always) have at least a little interest in truly pursuing mission
I know this for a fact because even though I am not at all C-level or even the manager of a large team, I often have a seat of the table in the meetings where such people come together. Those meeting can be ugly, they can reveal how the sausage is made, to borrow that analogy. And I’ve seen how many (not all) truly are trying to get done but doing so may require a bit of ugly sausage making to get there.
And I’m not a wide eyed 4th year either. I’m a grizzled and usually cynical veteran in my field. My job is often to put out fires, or produce analytical tools or output of strategic importance, and also to sometimes to plug a major gap in operational capabilities. I’m not really a manger but I’ve earned a seat at the table when the highest people get together as well as when they interface with counterparts at other organizations.
Don’t take that that to mean too much though: I may have a voice, but it is by far, very far, the smallest voice in the room.
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>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…
What do you do when people decide to make the exact ama E mistake again? If you can’t refer to “last time this was disaster” (aka “I told you so”) how do you prevent it.
> There must have been an insane nest of logic that the devs had to tiptoe through to make the service workable as a private only service. It seems that this statement can lead to different conclusions based on one's biases for or against Musk / freedom of speech: 1) The code base is a mess because the smaller, current team don't know what they're doing and/or management (i.e. Musk) is pushing them too hard and makin…
Why do you say Twitter is moving in a positive direction? My experience is that I dislike their app and they killed the one I liked (Tweetbot), it's frequently down (I still get the "Something went wrong" error), and any kind of conversation is dead because blue-check replies (usually quite low-quality) are prioritised. There are other reasons to dislike today's Twitter that I needn't go into here, but these are enou…
The second being free speech, I'm a big supporter of that and there's certainly more of that now. It's not perfect but I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater by arguing against perfection or pointing out some of the hypocrisies in play. It's a move in a positive direction.
They're comparisons against recent Twitter, which before Musk felt like an app with so many broken parts that were never going to get fixed (the login problem being the cherry on that cake for me). Now there's a feeling that things might get fixed, that new features definitely are coming, and that complaints might be listened to.
I also don't like the changes you've highlighted, though I do see them as inevitable at this point in internet history. We see Instagram and others moving towards paid verification, Reddit closing down its API and killing apps (and should we forget that Twitter has done this at least once before in one form or another). So, I don't think it's all rosy in the garden, but overall it's positive, and the negatives (mostly) feel inevitable.
Add to that, alternatives are now getting a bit of a look in from people that wouldn't have have bothered before. I don't think that Mastodon, to choose one example, is a direct replacement, but it's good that people are giving it a try.
Its funny how the entirety of silicon valley just forgot that Twitter was infamous for their unholy mess of a codebase which at some points looked like it had a secret mission to increase world entropy and terraform the planet. I still remember watching podcasts, reading blogposts, hearing prominent VC's like Elad talking about etc.. Now everbody silent because Elon is the baba yaga...
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You can't write tests for the changes someone might make in the future.
That's exactly why you write tests. You want to be sure future changes don't break present functionality, especially if the future changes are being done by someone who doesn't understand your part of the system.
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It's really not, and for quite a lot of people. This might be kind of true for a software engineer, but not for most people. Especially since if you quit or get fired, and can't find another job, you have no health insurance.
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> My guess is Elon said "the site's too slow!" Seems more like a thinly disguised attempt to force people to purchase subscriptions. Blue checkmarks and all.
> Seems more like a thinly disguised attempt to force people to purchase subscriptions. Blue checkmarks and all. 6k tweets a day even with the blue mark of shame makes something like tweetdeck functionally useless. Obviously Elon and I have different uses for "The Worlds Town Square"