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Post by throw0101c »

Dig1t wrote: post #118
andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

> This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

Quoted email: "Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 8:28 PM"

You: "government"

You may wish do double-check who was "in government", because checking my notes, it was not Biden.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_elections

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inauguration_of_Joe_Biden

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by kumarvvr »

walkhour wrote: post #899
kumarvvr wrote: post #657

How can the politics of US have only two parties, is beyond comprehension for me? Every aspect of US political life is cleanly split into two halves. Such a mess and totally un-representative of people that vote the govt. to power. Sure, some may argue that more parties means more chaos, but better there be a 100 small chaotic situations tempered by mutual interest and compromise, rather than two very dangerous chaot…

What they argue is that more parties doesn't end up making as much of a difference, and in the end parties just fall in two blocks. Just because there are more parties magic won't just happen, voters will be better represented, people will be less divided. Countries with dozens of parties in parliament have gone to civil war.

I am from India, and no such thing has happened here and we are a multi party democracy for over 70 years.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by avemg »

chrisbaker98 wrote: post #716
avemg wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should please you to hear that the Biden team was not the government at the time.

Trump's running for president again. If something comes out in October 2024 that looks bad for Trump, and Elon's Twitter censors the story at the request of Trump's team, will it please you to hear that Trump isn't (yet) in government?

It would, yes.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by ModernMech »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #880

more to review from the Biden Team sums up the story

Actually this does:

> there’s no evidence - that I’ve seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story.

Really curious why those who are using this story as evidence of government overreach fail to acknowledge this line.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by we_never_see_it »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #896
we_never_see_it wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the biggest hypocirsy was crying over laid-off H1B visa employees of Twitter and what a monster Musk is. The H1B visa situation is there for decades. The party of humanitarians didn't do a single thing for H1B visa holders. Instead of they used H1B visa holders' accomplishemnts as a way to justify illegal immigration. [1] When working class gets affected by illegal immigration then they are racists. When the w…

You linked to a 6 year old article about the 400 richest Americans, of which 42 were immigrants. What does this have to do with H1Bs and illegal immigration?

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by ModernMech »

irishloop wrote: post #488

Am I the only one who thinks its pretty fucked up of the business owner to be like, "oh, Hunter Biden left his laptop here? Might as well... give it to the New York Post" Like wtf?

It’s worse than that, he gave it to Rudy Giuliani.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by RavingGoat »

PathOfEclipse wrote: post #93
phphphphp wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love drama and chaos as much as any nerd with too much time on their hands… but this story has not a single compelling nugget to it. Like, the tweets so far are so un-juicy that I would like to ensure this doesn’t ever go to the frontpage so nobody else wastes their time reading this boring non-story. I wish it was worth reading.

How about the fact that they knew their justified reason for blocking the content, hacked materials, was an utter farce, and yet they kept on trucking along with bald faced lies? What's the point of a public moderation policy if the internal policy is to do whatever you want?

Same as it is now with Elon in charge

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by ehsankia »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #203
Dig1t wrote: post #16

I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

The irony of that statement is that we're talking about a private company deciding what is or isn't appropriate on its platform, not de jure censorship. It is not Twitter's responsibility to facilitate the Republicans' attempted October Surprise. On the other hand, where Republicans have political power, they are using it restrict speech and rights, by law. "Both sides" are not the same.

It's also ridiculous to me that they think removing a couple naked pictures of Hunter is "censorship". As if you can truly "censor" information on the internet. You can maybe slow its spread, but if anything, the hardest thing is get things off the internet, not on.

These people keep blaming some vague magical power for the reason Hunter stories never went anywhere, but the real reason no one talks about them isn't censorship, it's because they're literally non-stories. It's just revenge porn videos of a known drug abuser.

To call this "authoritarian censorship" is honestly mind boggling.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by wesapien »

chrisbaker98 wrote: post #801
ruszki wrote: post #789

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of tweets in the thread which laugh on people who think free speech is not absolute.

People might speak in absolutes for the sake of brevity, hyperbole or rhetorical laziness, but still, almost no-one takes a truly absolute position on free speech when push comes to shove. E.g. most free speech "absolutists" would agree that there should still be some kinds of laws against defamation, targeted harassment, and direct incitement to violence. That's my position.

Absolute freedom can only be achieves through death. I dare anyone claim it.
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