Maybe they'll stick C in a couple more devices, maybe one iPhone gen, but in all likelihood I'd say they're gonna go portless - something I wish other manufacturers had just done already, but Apple will tout it as a technologically advanced, "bold" move or something.
EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
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There's nothing wise or moral about this decision. Mandating a technology standard, purely for personal preference and convenience reasons -- not for reasons related to safety, or pollution, or security -- especially for things that change as fast as phones, is one of the most short-sighted and naive things any government could do. There's a long history of Apple using proprietary connectors to achieve performance sp…
I'd like to see Apple remove the port completely and rely on wireless charging and communication, only in the EU, just to spite the EU.
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#963As an EU citizen, I am really happy with this decision. I am an iPhone user, but having an iPhone is not ubiquitous here, almost all of my friends/special other, use an Android phone with USB-C. Most of their laptops, Mac or not, use or allow USB-C for charging. This as been the case for a few years now, yet, if I go somewhere for more than a full day and forget my lighting cable, my phone will become a useless paper…
This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
Surely this goes both ways - if you don’t want to play by the rules you can vote with your business and not sell in to that market?
Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
#964As an EU citizen, I am really happy with this decision. I am an iPhone user, but having an iPhone is not ubiquitous here, almost all of my friends/special other, use an Android phone with USB-C. Most of their laptops, Mac or not, use or allow USB-C for charging. This as been the case for a few years now, yet, if I go somewhere for more than a full day and forget my lighting cable, my phone will become a useless paper…
This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
The lightning connector is outmoded. The cables Apple makes are designed to fail, mostly around the heatshrink area. The digital standards that lightning supports are outdated: 0.480Gbps vs 20-40Gbps for USB C/+TB.
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> What is the procedure/convention for superseding this directive when something supersedes USB-C? I believe the EU are saying they'll keep up with new standards as they come in. The problem I see is, how can a new standard come in if nobody is allowed to use it. Its a chicken & egg problem, the EU will allow new standards as they're used, but nobody is allowed to use new standards until the EU allows it. Thats aside…
The connector can still remain the same while the internal changes. USB-C is just the connector head. Look at USB4 that still uses the USB-C head. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 It's just like we have new modern electronics, but they are all able to plug into the same wall sockets. I don't have to remodel my home.
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I thought it was going to have no ports and only wireless charging
Nah, in a move of immense courage they will ditch charging all together and start selling single use iPhones. I can see the dollars rolling in now.
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This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
>It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that Consumers wants? More like Apple wants to use one of the few proprietary technologies that they can get away with, so they can sell you cables, whilst fostering an almost cult-like adulation of their company & what they do so that any time Apple's decisions are questioned, legions of people defend them for n…
Maybe because your arguments are very one-sided and border on cult-like anti-Apple beliefs, like
> The cables Apple makes are designed to fail
All cables will fail with use eventually, there's no question to that. But suggesting somewhere inside Apple is an evil mastermind that's trying to get me to buy stuff that's deliberately engineered to be bad to get me to buy more is an accusation of which I've yet to see convincing proof. I respect your decision not to shop Apple, but I really don't like that fact you're spreading false or unverifiable claims.
(n=1, I've had 1 lightning cable break in the last 10 years)
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Transfer speed seems like a non-issue. Wi-Fi 6 is faster than the the internal SSDs read speed. There's no reason to even plug it in for data.
Wi-Fi 6 is faster than the internal SSDs read speed when there is direct line of sight and absolutely no cross channel interference*
It isn't. Even the upcoming Wi-Fi 7 will be a bottleneck for modern SSDs.
But the much bigger problem is interoperability between different devices and OSs for Wi-Fi transfers.
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> but Apple (and only Apple) just refused to listen, so here we are. Did consumers find this so onerous that they stopped buying iPhones?
this is an excellent explanation for why this kind of public regulation is necessary. of course they didn't stop buying them. and this is exactly why regulating businesses by consumer behaviour is so so unwise multiple standards may well be easily avoidable, inconvenient and bad for the environment, but people aren't going to change their behaviour, solely because they like Apple's UX