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And what is his relation to Jordan Peterson? I'm seeing a weird attempt to link the two in the media (presumably as an attempt to use the former to discredit the latter) but I've never even heard of Joe Rogan except in the context of trollposts (which usually do not give the necessary background I need to know what's going on)
It looks like they went on rampage yesterday and removed a bunch of episodes. I don't recognize the names (and there too many) so I don't know why that even happened. I have watched a number of JREs and this is odd. I like Spotify a lot but I have no issue leaving them if this is the new policy. There are a lot of music services out there and Spotify shines because of the podcasts.
Apparently it excludes the episode with Dr. Robert Malone, which is the one that ticked off the likes of Neil Young: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT . It's still online, for now. I actually listened to that one and even though I don't agree with everything that was discussed during that 3 hour interview, a few things struck me as odd in the huge wave of criticism that followed. - Dr Malone has…
I'm curious if he said the n-word in any of the episodes. The Rock just announced on Twitter some news about finding out just how much Joe Rogan used that slur. News spreads fast in Hollywood circles. Maybe Spotify is trying to get ahead of the curve before any more controversies break out.
That would get awkward fast because of all the songs using that word.
hot take: if people do not like the actions that private corporations take on their platforms to protect their bottom lines. Then send your money to people that are working to build decentralized systems that do not have a corporate owner or answer to shareholders.
In Russia they used to justify their brand of censorship with the argument that "that's what they are doing in the US too"; often these claims are exaggerated and not strictly true, but now you have given them yet another argument for strengthening their Russian brand of authoritarianism. Sad story that there seems to be some kind of convergence between the east and the west; it seems like the shit is flowing both wa…
huh? The government didn’t censure anything. Spotify did due to the PR disaster (musicians pulling out, scientific community speaking out, …). How does a private corporation action equate to government level censorship in the US?
If private corporations can police information and communication, they’re the de facto new government.
Worse, the handful of companies that police our communication (Apple, Google, etc) all have extremely big presences in Washington.
This is not what free speech looks like.
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I think Spotify is getting onto thin ice. I subscribed to Spotify because I want to stream music, and I like that the bands I listen to get a bit of money. But when I hear that they are paying $100M to some controversial US podcaster (before Neil Young left Spotify I have never heard of Joe Rogan), I'm thinking, this isn't what I signed up for. I want my money to go towards German indie bands, not rich American celeb…
I don't think they're on thin ice. Remember when people were boycotting Netflix over Cuties? Their stock prices recovered and everyone forgot. People have also boycotted YouTube or pulled their ads. These things just blow over.
And...? They paid for this content, they should have a right to just put it in the freezer if they want to.
After discovering why they dropped the episodes, personally I hope that every music artist withdraws their catalog from Spotify and tanks it as a platform if they continue to support him. Supporting a racist asshole should not be tolerated.
We have an economy that functions by virtue of central banks pumping billions into venture capital firms. Venture capital investors in turn speculate on big tech companies that never make any profit. It's a top-down regulated economy full of Ponzi schemes, where a handful of brokers with a virtually unlimited supply of government money make the rules. That is why big tech and big business agenda's are constantly at odds with the popular opinion on the internet and society. They don't care because it is no longer your money they need.
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It’s not censorship, at all. This is literally peak Capitalism, something anybody that finds their way to & stays on HN should very much understand. Money is currently talking, Spotify - a company - is reacting to money talking. Any other interpretation of this is… I don’t know, but definitely not correct. In the end, we’re once again shown, money is all that matters.