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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by giantrobot »

Mindwipe wrote: post #951
giantrobot wrote: post #945

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> enforcing digital scarcity in a federated metaverse Why in the hell would I want to enforce digital scarcity in a metaverse? Do we really need to make sure people in the metaverse are poor just like in the real world? If someone is going to shell out money for VR kit (and Internet access, etc) why should they have to pay more money for their avatar to have a particular set of clothes or accessory? One of the great…

> Why in the hell would I want to enforce digital scarcity in a metaverse? Because as Second Life demonstrated we don't seem to have many good ideas for incentivising creation otherwise.

Making a virtual world enforce some scarcity mechanism simply manifests real world problems in the virtual world.

Any system implement artificial scarcity would be a DRM system. In order for you to able to "wear" virtual Nikes (because you paid for them) and me not be able to "wear" them (because I didn't) the metaverse could not be open and federated.

In order for me to see your virtual Nikes I'd have to retrieve the mesh and texture files for them. My system would have to be locked down such that I couldn't pull those files out of my local cache.

From your side of the issue, would you (the hypothetical royal you) pay for virtual Nikes if I could tell my client device to ignore remote resources? What good are your virtual Nikes if people can choose not to see them?

Obviously replace Nike with any IP holder even down to the smallest of small time creators. A metaverse with artificial scarcity would be the walliest of walled gardens with a giant moat on the outside. The only way to make that work is to have a completely locked down and closed system.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by metta2uall »

Where are we going to get the additional electricity to power these virtual worlds in the short term? We're already in a climate emergency due to insufficient green energy to power existing demands...

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by gitfan86 »

camdat wrote: post #439
gitfan86 wrote: post #320

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You are right. Pride comes before a fall, and Zuck thinks he is better than Cook, Musk, Bezos, by building the multiverse he will restore his place as the greatest technologist of our time

Do you not get sick of this being repeated constantly? Every year someone repeats that Facebooks doom is imminent, and every year their revenue and user base gets larger and larger When does this opinion just become pasé?

This is actually the first time I have ever thought that facebook's future doesn't look great in comparison to other big tech.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by RobKohr »

mro_name wrote: post #880
firecall wrote: post #867

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John Columbo, former CEO of IBM.

oh, not the TV detective :-(

Fret not, it was really the TV detective. I think the one that suggested it was someone from IBM was being sarcastic.

One more thing for your viewing pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBnaMGP2aY

~ A fellow Columbo fan who used to watch it with his Grandma (she so had the hots for him)

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by matty22 »

debaserab2 wrote: post #609
bmhin wrote: post #195

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> the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds I don't know if you have a more narrow view of this idea or specifically mean VR/AR, but that just sounds like what massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of Warcraft are. I think Roblox is even a broader use case, though I am fairly unfamiliar with that. MMOs have been very viable fro…

> MMOs have been very viable from both a business Really? Everything that's not named World of Warcraft seems to die out, usually in less than a year. It's a genre that's been a notorious recipe for failure for most companies not named Blizzard.

FFXIV has something like 24 million subs right now and growing.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by shoto_io »

cblconfederate wrote: post #914
shoto_io wrote: post #42

Let’s have a “Meta” discussion about this rebrand.

rebranding seems to be in vogue among colossal-market-cap big tech. I wonder what will Apple rebrand to ? I think "Rounded corners" would be appropriate

Good one! It don't think it will ever happen though since Apple is an integrated company with no separate incorporated units, AFAIK. There is no need for a "mother" company like in Meta's or Alphabet's case.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by JKCalhoun »

zenmaster10665 wrote: post #621
JKCalhoun wrote: post #65

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Seems like "metaverse" means walled internet. "You've got mail!" LOL

You are misunderstanding or wilfully ignoring the details. They talk about interoperability as a key part of how this will become reality, and the fact that no single company can realise this vision...

I am misunderstanding then. I am also probably willfully assuming Facebook will continue to operate as they have been — trying to steer all users to their site, keep them engaged on their site.
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