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Re: We must pace the frontier

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Post by Davidzheng » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 8:37 AM UTC

Davidzheng wrote: post #950

augment_me wrote: post #638

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a call to end capitalism. Its completely impossible to do what you suggest with the incentives of capitalism.

Actually capitalism kind of has to end further down this road if we don't want to cede control completely to super intelligent ais and their direct "owners".

Market equilibrium probably tends to give 100% resource to ai building bc it leads to most returns and all human labor goes to zero.

Caveat I know nothing about economics lol--but this is my uninformed opinion.

Re: We must pace the frontier

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Post by Davidzheng » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 8:50 AM UTC

ls612 wrote: post #550

Davidzheng wrote: post #291

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??? Why It can use the compute of the computers it hacks.

lolwut? This is Hacker News of all places do people not realize how much memory, and more importantly bandwidth , these systems need to work? The idea of a distributed botnet of AI using the compute of its victims to continue its inference is pure science fiction given how LLMs actually work.

Yeah I agree, probably can't survive off regular consumer hardware or most non AI datacenters.

Re: We must pace the frontier

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Post by the_gipsy » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 8:54 AM UTC

boshalfoshal wrote: post #803

un_montagnard wrote: post #598

Anthropic is about to go public, but they figured they can't keep making improvement at the same pace they used to. If the frontier is paced, they can continue hyping their unreleased capabilities that coincidentally cannot be released due to things outside their control. Which buy them more time to try to improve the models.

This is just completely false lol. They most certainly can make better models - why cant people here just read this for face value? I think anthropic is legitimately concerned about the safety implications of stronger models. Race dynamics necessitate that they make better and better models, which they clearly think is bad. They have an internal model which could solve a millenium problem end to end with no intervent…

> why cant people here just read this for face value?

Why should we? Yes, reading the comments, it seems like the IT (or maybe it's just the AI) community has taken up an attitude of simply believing our Dear Tech Leader's by their word. What happened?