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Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by adastra22 »

rafale wrote: post #745
noosphr wrote: post #528

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LLMs upend a few centuries of labor theory. The current market is predicated on the assumption that labor is atomic and has little bargaining power (minus unions). While capital has huge bargaining power and can effectively put whatever price it wants on labor (in markets where labor is plentiful, which is most of them). What happens to a company used to extracting surplus value from labor when the labor is provided…

Someone leaked nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union. What are the chances that someone leaks the "weights" of a (near-)singularity model?

That would require "(near-)singularity model" being an actual thing, so zero.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by dcre »

xutopia wrote: post #764
dcre wrote: post #725

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Why is AGI required to make the investments work out?

With AGI we expect a huge return on investment and a GDP growth that could be accelerating at a rate we couldn't even comprehend. Imagine an algorithm that improves itself each iteration and finds ways to increase its capacity every day. Robots suddenly capable of doing dishes, grocery shopping, picking produce from the field. Imagine all your ailments handled... age becomes just a number. Also with AGI we expect a w…

This does not answer my question.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by gardenhedge »

pietz wrote: post #88
pixel_popping wrote: post #26

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can't wait! Thanks guys. PS: when you drop a new model, it would be smart to reset weekly or at least session limits :)

OpenAI has been very generous with limit resets. Please don't turn this into a weird expectation to happen whenever something unrelated happens. It would piss me off if I were in their place and I really don't want them to stop.

Strange behaviour to defend a company like this. Reset the limits openai!

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by matchagaucho »

endymi0n wrote: post #103
tedsanders wrote: post #19

Just as a heads up, even though GPT-5.5 is releasing today, the rollout in ChatGPT and Codex will be gradual over many hours so that we can make sure service remains stable for everyone (same as our previous launches). You may not see it right away, and if you don't, try again later in the day. We usually start with Pro/Enterprise accounts and then work our way down to Plus. We know it's slightly annoying to have to…

Did you guys do anything about GPT‘s motivation? I tried to use GPT-5.4 API (at xhigh) for my OpenClaw after the Anthropic Oauthgate, but I just couldn‘t drag it to do its job. I had the most hilarious dialogues along the lines of „You stopped, X would have been next.“ - „Yeah, I‘m sorry, I failed. I should have done X next.“ - „Well, how about you just do it?“ - „Yep, I really should have done it now.“ - “Do X, righ…

I would love to see a GPT model running on an OpenClaw SOUL.md.

The GPT models are highly steerable. So I suspect the "soul" is working as expected.

(for context, in OAI enterprise background agents, they have no personality. They just get 'er done)

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by shimman »

cjsaltlake wrote: post #688
shimman wrote: post #633

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LLMs don't upend anything about labor theory, good grief. Technologists really have no concept of history beyond their own lives do they? Labor saving/efficiency devices have been introduced throughout capitalisms entire history multiple times and the results are always the same; they don't benefit workers and capitalists extract as much value as they can. LLMs aren't any different.

Labor replacing devices means nobody works in those fields anymore. If AI can do this for every field, nearly no one will need to work in any field. We'll have a giant fully automated resource-extraction machine.

Yes and you think the workers will truly benefit from this? This country can't even pass universal childcare or medicare for all, two policies that have >70% of support across party lines. Fat chance that the current government nationalizes these companies to provide the benefits for everyone, not just the few.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by shimman »

kjshsh123 wrote: post #671
noosphr wrote: post #657

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If you want the neoclassical version: What happens when there is an oligopoly in the supply of labor? Same answer. Nothing good for the consumers of labor.

Technological improvements shift supply curves right which is good for consumers.

Ah yes, shinier trinkets while your material reality dissolves (unaffordable housing, childcare, school, poor jobs, poor benefits)! The neoliberal dream.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by Night_Thastus »

viktorcode wrote: post #887
Night_Thastus wrote: post #294

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This is entirely expected. The low prices of using LLMs early on was totally and completely unsustainable. The companies providing such services were (and still are) burning money by the truckload. The hope is to get a big userbase who eventually become dependent on it for their workflow, then crank up the price until it finally becomes profitable. The price for all models by all companies will continue to go up, and…

> This is entirely expected. The low prices of using LLMs early on was totally and completely unsustainable. Do you think this is true for DeepSeek as well?

Depends on the level of interest the state takes in it. But I would wager yes, it's unsustainable currently.
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