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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by alwillis »

apatheticonion wrote: post #697
oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

It's not what everyone wants but Apple supports Linux containers [1]. I've used it and it works well.

[1]: https://opensource.apple.com/projects/container/

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by vablings »

miki123211 wrote: post #848
schnebbau wrote: post #700

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Well, that certainly would be one way to wipe billions from their share price overnight. The only way Linux on Mac will become a reality is if it's legislated.

Apple went out of its way to make Linux on Mac a reality. They did a lot to allow third-party OSes when Apple Silicon came out, it's up to the Linux community to do the rest. There were a couple of people (the Asahi team) that made this work for M1, but as I understand it, the effort has stalled since. This just goes to show how few people truly care.

This is not true. Most of the efforts as of late have been code refactoring since there was a mad rush to show "it works!!"

Just because a few people stepped away from the project doesn't mean there are plenty of other developers working hard every day on this.

https://asahilinux.org/blog/

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by jillesvangurp »

puelocesar wrote: post #714
jillesvangurp wrote: post #567

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The Vision Pro's failings are IMHO not software or hardware related but a poorly executed platform strategy for content. Apple's reflex to build walled gardens has crippled the effort. And it's not the first time. Their Apple TV strategy was held back for years as well. Great hardware. Very cheap. You can plug it into any TV. It's not a bad game console even. But it lacked games. And streaming TV channels. And for a…

It’s not the “walled garden” that’s preventing Valve to write Proton for Mac, it’s the lack of Vulcan support. Apple pushed to its own Metal framework when they deprecated OpenGl, which is probably great for performance, but outright denying support for Vulkan was a killer blow for games.

Which they could choose to fix but didn't because they are treating it as a walled garden. Which is the same reason they removed the OpenGL support and declined to update/modernize that implementation. As reverse engineering efforts for asahi linux have shown, implementing Vulkan is perfectly possible and apparently runs with pretty decent performance. And as Apple's own efforts with the game porting kit show, supporting DirectX is also not an impossibility and there are some examples of ported games in the Apple store.

Apple religiously defends its walled gardens. Stuff like this is the exact symptom. They don't allow third parties to "fix" this either. They don't really document their own hardware and treat it as a control point. They also don't support independent efforts to port other operating systems on mac hardware.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by trueno »

silon42 wrote: post #704
apatheticonion wrote: post #697

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My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

As a power user, ThinkPad T (maybe P also) series is better for me (and it's not that close). I run Linux on it.

ha, i use both. i don't even need to write any platitudes on if linux came to mac, utm or parallels has linux going at near native speed actually happier than it runs on my thinkpad t. i get to enjoy all worlds on my mac and its probably the best multi-target development environment ive ever had, and the hardware is still leagues above literally anything else on the market. dont get me wrong i want more options, im still just waiting for options that deserve to be in this convo. i have zero allegiances to who made it, whoever comes forward with the best hardware gets my money. and my orgs money since i pick the teams hardware.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by kergonath »

eloisant wrote: post #767
thenanyu wrote: post #160

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Siri was under jobs. He saw AI before everyone else

The problem with the word "AI" is that it's a broad term with fuzzy borders depending on who you ask. But no matter what definition you take Siri was not the first AI. It's a classical cases of Apple fans thinking Apple invented everything because they saw it first in an Apple product... If you think about AI in broad terms, it goes back to the 1970's where any skill computers gained originally thought as only human…

> But no matter what definition you take Siri was not the first AI. It's a classical cases of Apple fans thinking Apple invented everything because they saw it first in an Apple product...

That’s a point you are very unlikely to see being made. Apple famously bought the startup that was making Siri. They didn’t even change the name.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by trueno »

bushbaba wrote: post #641
jinushaun wrote: post #494

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I really hope they fire whoever is in charge of Liquid Glass. Whoever is leading Apple software has run out of ideas. Of all the countless things they could be doing in software, we got the useless Liquid Glass refactor.

I hated liquid glass at first, but now i've come to appreciate it. It grows on you

i was getting annoyed at the state of shadcn/daisyui/the other six trillion ui patterns that have spawned since the abomination known as materialui and i actually realized liquid glass is the only meaningful step away from that we've seen in quite a long time.

it's still not quite my tempo, looks downright silly in many places, but it has grown on me just a smidge, and i think i'd receive it a little better if it wasn't fundamentally more intensive to render. i think that's a line i can't respect and it feels like a step backwards.

i don't want to wax nostalgic about windows 98 era ui's or the design patterns i see with a lot of qt apps either, like they are imo kind of ugly to me too. but i appreciated the consistency back in the 98 era, and i think a ui that restored 3d beveled looking components, were somewhat expressive but consistent is what i want.

but the world is different now. things like flutter that give people a canvas and let them ground up their entire design language undoubtedly mean consistency can only exist within an entity's control, there likely will never be a unified agreed-upon set of ui standards that span industries and personal computing and different stacks anymore. kinda amusing that improved tooling and frameworks has just resulted in a wild west of user interface design.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by arendtio »

danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

I am not a big Apple fan, but when I see what they did with the M-series MacBooks, it feels like they are from the future. And not just a year ahead or so, but more like a decade.

This is something Tim and John both deserve credit for.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by initatus »

yokoprime wrote: post #881
stasomatic wrote: post #859

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Marco should concentrate on fixing the UX abomination that Overcast has become instead of writing breathy sophomoric letters. At this point, I’ll vibe code my own podcast player.

If you want to burn tokens making a bespoke podcast player its probably a good learning exercise. I like Overcast, it would be great if i could see the latest episodes on the front page when opening the app, otherwise its fine.

Settings -> customize home screen -> show recent episodes

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by 243341286 »

anonym00se1 wrote: post #434
w10-1 wrote: post #90

His letter (at the top of Apple's web site) is moving: https://www.apple.com/community-letter-from-tim/ I understand Tim is a logistics genius and Ternus is a hardware genius, and that we all want better software and policy from Apple, but I'm glad that there seems to be good people at the head of one of the biggest and most consequential companies, and further that they seem to care about being good people. As far a…

Ternus is not a hardware genius. He's a hardware engineer that rose through the ranks at Apple because, from what I've heard from Apple hardware engineers, Dan Riccio liked him "like a son."

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