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Re: Scott Adams has died

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

shwaj wrote: post #893
LaGrange wrote: post #628

Bye, nobody will miss you. I’m trans, I’m autistic, and I caught on how bad he was day one, as his comics had a very specific slant to them that felt less like truly looking at workplace dynamics, and more acting misanthropic and aggrieved. I get you might have not caught on so soon - I’d call myself lucky - but you had plenty of time to figure out that not only he isn’t good, but also never was.

There are literally dozens of people in this very HN conversation that are missing him.

> There are literally dozens

Re: Scott Adams has died

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

bitfilped wrote: post #920

The amount of closeted racism and blind defense in this comment section while knowing this is the peak represention of our industry makes me ashamed to be an engineer.

It's a very common approach. Telling low performing white men they should blame black people and women for their woes is a soundtrack that resonates well.

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Post by billy99k »

rchaud wrote: post #657
lisper wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The racism and the provocations were always there Were they? Can you cite an example? Because I also grew up with Dilbert, and I was never aware of it.

It's in Chapter 1 of his autobiography. He used to work at a bank in the 80s, and was turned down for a managerial or executive position (can't remember) which went to an Asian candidate. He was certain it was due to DEI (in the 80s!) and quit the corporate world to become a cartoonist. The strip that got him dropped in 2022 featured a black character (first in the history of the cartoon) who "identifies as white".

This wasn't when he got dropped. He got dropped in 2016 when he said he supported Trump. In an interview on CNN shortly after this, he talks about how all of his corporate gigs dried up and newspapers tried to cancel him. He also later talked about Venture capitalists dropping him as well because of this.

"it was due to DEI (in the 80s!)"

DEI used to be known as affirmative action in those days. I see so many people try to claim that it never happened, when many of us around during this time experienced it.

"The strip that got him dropped in 2022 featured a black character (first in the history of the cartoon) who "identifies as white"."

While I don't see a problem with this, this was a fuck you to corporations and newspapers that dropped him merely because of his political opinions, an inhumane and bigoted tactic by liberals. This is one of the reasons why I always respected him. He was willing to fight for his beliefs and never backed down.

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Post by Throaway1982 »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #775
stetrain wrote: post #522

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I think it’s interesting how many responses to this comment seem to have interpreted it fairly differently to my own reading. There are many responding about “ignoring racism,” “whitewashing,” or the importance of calling out bigotry. I’m not sure how that follows from a comment that literally calls out the racism and describes it as “unambiguous.” Striving to “avoid the ugliness” in your own life does not mean ignor…

Ironically, a whole bunch of people have spent their formative years in a cancel-culture world and this now shapes their actions. But at an art gallery, Picasso is near worshipped despite his torrid misogyny and abuse in his personal life which was terrible even by the standards of his day. The views on his art were formed at a time before cancel-culture was a thing. Realising: - everyone has performed good and bad a…

If you aren't willing to separate art from the artist, you are admitting that your bias is more important than your ability to appreciate nuance.

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Post by DonHopkins »

speedgoose wrote: post #73
negzero7 wrote: post #58

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Perhaps people can decide by themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Adams#Political_views

negzero7: Please explain how exactly "Blacks are a hate group" and "White people should stay the hell away from Black people" are well reasoned opinions without revealing that you're a bigoted racist sack of shit too.

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Post by iso1631 »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #541
hearsathought wrote: post #529

Why does every other comment apologize for adams' political views? It's like a bunch of people were conditioned or brainwashed into reflexibly regurgitation nonsense.

Long ago where one's politics is elevated to the position of identity the culture shifted and continues to shift. I realized early on through IRC that some people cannot have a professional or cordial relationship with someone opposed to their position. The moment someone found out I believed in the opposite of the group I was attacked.

I have no idea what the politics of the CEO of Boeing or Ford or Home Depot is. They don't stand on stages brandishing chainsaws, or writing op-eds about political viewpoints, thus I don't disagree with them on politics. Some CEOs do that and thus choose to associate their companies and their business with politics.

If you make your politics part of your identity, as Adams increasingly chose to do throughout the 2010s, then it will become your identity, and that associates his output with his politics.

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Post by account42 »

gopher_space wrote: post #337
georgeburdell wrote: post #265

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Adams had a normal range of beliefs. Postulating that they arose from some extrinsic and extra-personal source is a condemnation of your own limited views. People get older and begin to care less about conformity, including keeping controversial thoughts to themselves, as society loosens its reins as your needs are met (to make money, to find a partner, to have a family, etc.)

What’s normal about bigotry? It’s brain damage.

Pattern matching is very much a defining trait for humans.

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Post by teddyh »

Uhhrrr wrote: post #540

This is one of my favorite strips of his: https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/... Another one was the one where he went to work in Marketing, and they were doing their research by yelling questions into a well. But I can't find that one.

> This is one of my favorite strips of his: […]

Better link: https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/1997-01-13>

> Another one was the one where he went to work in Marketing, and they were doing their research by yelling questions into a well. But I can't find that one.

Here it is: https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/1992-04-09>

Re: Scott Adams has died

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Post by commandlinefan »

trashface wrote: post #734
commandlinefan wrote: post #367

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Take this as your reminder to get it checked. Takes a morning, lasts for 10 years.

If you already had a relative with it (like a father) you need to check PSA more than every 10 years, and I personally think its not wise for any middle-aged man to wait that long between tests, considering PSA is just a blood test. My Dad had PC at 65. My older brother got a PSA test at age 41, was a bit over 1.0. Waited 10 years before getting another PSA (his doc was telling him to get one but he didn't), then it…

> PSA is just a blood test.

Um, well, the test I was referring to is quite a bit more involved than a blood test. But yes, get yourself checked.

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