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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by 72deluxe »

type0 wrote: post #635
scarlehoff wrote: post #246

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I agree. This is the first time I regret updating macOs. I hoped the .1 or .2 would fix things, but I'm still seeing glitches and even random freezes. Microsoft is a disaster right now, but if the new intel processor can compete on battery life with mac I might go back to linux.

> if the new intel processor can compete on battery life with mac I might go back to linux. Unfortunately Intel is cutting down their Linux involvement so I wouldn't have high hopes for it. Newer AMD laptops are probably on par with Intel on Linux now.

It's a pity Lenovo isn't doing Linux support for their Snapdragon laptops. I'd switch.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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dlandis wrote: post #878
ekropotin wrote: post #868

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I have maybe unpopular opinion, but Apple always been terrible in UX. Just to give a few examples which annoys me the most: - Finder. It just something else. After 10 years of using OSX I still can’t figure out how to use it efficiently for selecting the path - this experience is different every time, depending on the context where Finder was called from. I just don’t get. - Lack of the true tiling window manager exp…

Regarding the window manager and Finder; I had a better experience with the Windows equivalents way back on Windows 2k or even Windows 98 more than quarter century ago. Truly baffling.

Yes, even the Windows 98 Explorer with IE integration (let's load a JPG of clouds to the left of the file detail pane) was better than modern equivalents. In Windows 10 (or was it 7?) they introduced a stupid column view in detail view that became focused with tab, so you couldn't just tab between the 3 places of directory list, file pane, address bar.

They also added stupid "quick launch" areas with places nobody went, like "3D Objects", and reduced the menu area to a "grope and find a button" ribbon.

The older Explorers were usable like File Manager on Windows 3.11 was: address bars that were usable from the keyboard and mouse (no subdivision buttons for parts of the path), acceptable launch speed, and no extra "features" that were unnecessary (like it ignoring "use same view for all folders" when your directory happens to have MP3s in it - it'll switch to showing rating / bitrate etc.)

I believe all developers should use older versions of the software to see how usable they were in comparison to the modern "improvement".

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by 72deluxe »

zecg wrote: post #705
morshu9001 wrote: post #654

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If you applied these standards of critique to Linux UIs, this post would be an entire encyclopedia, indexed by DE. I'd take even the worst modern Mac OS (Lion?) over that.

I feel like people who say this haven't seen KDE in a very long time. On a thinkpad it not only "just works", it works flawlessly, never demands attention without justification (i.e. no ads or superfluous items in notifications), every bit of hardware works, all the special keys, fingerprint reader and it's all recognized and usable and configurable from KDE.

Is there any particular distro you're using KDE on for this to work flawlessly on a Thinkpad? I have a Carbon Gen 6 on Windows 10 but one day will need to migrate. The device itself is sound and reliable.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by 72deluxe »

amelius wrote: post #187

Why does the UI have to change all the time? Can't they just keep it the same? If cars were like computers, the steering wheel would be in a different place after every maintenance check. Anyway, I'm on Linux, using Gnome Classic as my WM, and I don't have these stupid "everything is suddenly different now" issues.

I agree with you, on Ubuntu MATE 24.04.2 enjoying getting work done instead of popups and unfathomable UI changes. Let's be friends.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by matusp »

JoachimS wrote: post #679
pwg wrote: post #364

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> Why does the UI have to change all the time? Can't they just keep it the same? Because if they kept it the same, then there would be no need to continue to employ all those UI designers. Therefore, to be assured of their continued employment, the UI designers have to make constant changes to justify their existence. Meanwhile, we get to suffer with their changes.

I see this sentiment sometimes, but don't buy it. What I do buy is that customers, as well as investors expect the company to keep developing new products, create new releases and version. To drive sales. Companies don't build things to motivate having developers - Remember they are the "cost center", while sales are the creators of value. The developers are a necessary burden and would be axed as soon as they don't…

I believe that sentiment to some extent. As soon as you establish an org, they will keep generating projects for themselves. Almost no manager will tell you that their work is complete and it is time to downsize their team. If you have an UX team with N people, the team will make sure to generate workload for N people, probably even more.

On top of that, managing a huge redesign is a great career opportunity for everyone involved. The incentives are simply stacked in favor of doing redesigns for their own sake all the time. You need a clear minded top level manager to stop these kinds of ideas.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by GreenWatermelon »

pilif wrote: post #637

As much as I like to hate on a new OS like the next person, I think it's worth pointing out we're probably not seeing the full picture here: When trying to reproduce the problem as shown in the article by resizing the Safari window currently displaying the article, the drag cursor changes shape at the visible border of the window, not the shadow and consequently, dragging works as expected. https://youtu.be/kNovjjvYP…

Judging by this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46599464

It seems to be common.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by akimbostrawman »

1over137 wrote: post #67
bikelang wrote: post #31

Should we crowdfund some billboards in Cupertino expressing how big a misstep we collectively think Tahoe/iOS 26/Liquid glAss was?

No. Direct that money to open source projects and let Apple ruin itself.

Proprietary software prisoners will do absolutely everything to appease there abusive prison guard except simply quit walking into the golden cage every morning.
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