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> In short, a latent bug in a service underpinning our bot mitigation capability started to crash after a routine configuration change we made. That cascaded into a broad degradation to our network and other services. This was not an attack. From the CTO, Source: https://x.com/dok2001/status/1990791419653484646

Wish this could rocket to the top of the comment thread, digging through hundreds of comments speculating about a cyberattack to find this felt silly

Re: Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues

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post #939

> In short, a latent bug in a service underpinning our bot mitigation capability started to crash after a routine configuration change we made. That cascaded into a broad degradation to our network and other services. This was not an attack. From the CTO, Source: https://x.com/dok2001/status/1990791419653484646

It still astounds me that the big dogs still do not phase config rollouts. Code is data, configs are data, they are one and the same. It was the same issue with the giant crowdstrike outage last year, they were rawdogging configs globally and a bad config made it out there and everything went kaboom. You NEED to phase config rollouts like you phase code rollouts.

In a company I am no longer with I argued much the same when we rolled out "global CI/CD" on IAC. You made one change, committed and pushed, wham it's on 40+ server clusters globally. I hated it. The principal was enamored with it, "cattle not pets" and all that, but the result was things slowed down considerably because anyone working with it became so terrified of making big changes.

Re: Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues

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How did we get to a place where either Cloudflare or AWS having an outage means a large part of the web going down? This centralization is very worrying.

It's not only centralization in the sense your website will be down if they are down but it is also a centralized MITM proxy. If you transfer sensitive data like chats over cloudflare-"protected" endpoints, you also allow CF to transparently read and analyze it in plain-text. It must be very easy for state agencies to spy on the internet nowadays, they woukd just ask CF to redirect traffic to them.

Re: Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues

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How did we get to a place where either Cloudflare or AWS having an outage means a large part of the web going down? This centralization is very worrying.

Because bots are a real thing.

And it’s hard to protect against DDoS without something like Cloudflare.

Look at the posts here.

Even the meager HN “hug of death” will take things down

Re: Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues

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post #939

> In short, a latent bug in a service underpinning our bot mitigation capability started to crash after a routine configuration change we made. That cascaded into a broad degradation to our network and other services. This was not an attack. From the CTO, Source: https://x.com/dok2001/status/1990791419653484646

It still astounds me that the big dogs still do not phase config rollouts. Code is data, configs are data, they are one and the same. It was the same issue with the giant crowdstrike outage last year, they were rawdogging configs globally and a bad config made it out there and everything went kaboom. You NEED to phase config rollouts like you phase code rollouts.

Then you get customer visible delays.

Re: Cloudflare Global Network experiencing issues

#960
I happened to be working with Claude when this occurred. Having no idea what exactly what the cause was, I jumped over to GPT and observed the same. I did a dig challenges.cloudflare.com and by the time I'd figured out kind of what was happening, it seemed to have... resolved itself

I must say I'm astonished, as naive as it may be, to see the number of separate platforms affected by this. And it has been a bit of a learning experience too.

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