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U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by deepsquirrelnet »

GMoromisato wrote: post #884

I'm curious to hear people's predictions for the future: 1. Will Iran escalate, stay-the-course, or yield more in negotiations? Or take some other action I haven't thought of. 2. If Iran escalates, how far will it go? 3. If Iran does a token retaliation without major escalation, but refuses to give up its remaining nuclear program, what happens? Will the Israeli's be satisfied with a 2-4 year delay in Iran's program…

Worldwide, it’s always the presidents who need to cling to power to avoid accountability.

We already pulled the “they have WMDs” card, despite significant credibility problems.

We have a completely inexperienced 22 year old in charge of terrorism prevention at a time when any act of terrorism against the US would be a nightmarish scenario for escalation.

To me it looks as though we sent the invitation and left a note that the front door is unlocked.

Re: U.S. bombs Iranian nuclear sites

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Post by reaperducer »

MrSkelter wrote: post #949
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

FYI every credible expert agrees that Iran aren’t making bombs yet. They are enriching to 60%. Far from what’s needed for a weapon. They have been capable of making bombs for decades and have chosen not to. They even adhered to the JCPOA when Trump tire it up. It’s odd to have a country that illegally proliferated treating a neighbor who isn’t doing that yet as the greatest threat to world piece. Backed by the only c…

They are enriching to 60%. Far from what’s needed for a weapon.

83.7%, according to the United Nations: https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-uranium-enrichment-g...

Only 6.3% short of weapons-grade.

As for the rest of your comment, you might find information about modern-day bunker busters interesting: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/20/world/middlee...

The ones used for this operation go 197 feet, including 25 solid feet of high-strength concrete, with just one bomb. The idea is to use multiple bombs trailing one another to achieve extra depth. It's too soon yet to tell if that worked, or not.

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Post by layer8 »

GMoromisato wrote: post #884

I'm curious to hear people's predictions for the future: 1. Will Iran escalate, stay-the-course, or yield more in negotiations? Or take some other action I haven't thought of. 2. If Iran escalates, how far will it go? 3. If Iran does a token retaliation without major escalation, but refuses to give up its remaining nuclear program, what happens? Will the Israeli's be satisfied with a 2-4 year delay in Iran's program…

Medvedev wrote on social media today that “Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads”.

If there’s anything to that statement, things are likely to remain messy.

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Post by mikeen »

rich_sasha wrote: post #478
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

> unauthorized It's a weird one. I don't disagree with your post, still, what is "approved" nukes? A bunch of countries got them, then decided that no one else is allowed them. Then Israel also got them, also "unauthorized", but countries who don't mind pretend they don't know. In the end there is no authorized and unauthorized nukes, only a calculus of power.

A bunch of countries joined the non-proliferation agreement, including ... Iran. Which makes those nukes illegal in the eye of Iranian own laws.

Israel is not a singer of the treaty.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

czhu12 wrote: post #611
jameslk wrote: post #508

This is not the end. This is the beginning of another Iraq war, set up exactly the same way: claiming, with dubious proof, an imminent risk from weapons of mass destruction. Iran’s options here are to bomb US bases, which are a lot closer by, mine the Strait of Hormuz, blow up oil infrastructure in nearby countries who are harboring US bases. This might risk Iran a much larger war but the alternative of doing nothing…

I could be wrong in the end, but my read is that there really isn't the appetite anywhere near the levels during post 9/11 or cold war to enter a war. Not in the US, and likely not in Iran either. Its hard to think of a full scale war that was started by the U.S. that didn't have popular approval at the time it was launched.

We're just one Iran-backed terrorist attack that causes mass casualties away from popular support for a war against Iran.

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Post by tptacek »

boston_clone wrote: post #910
tptacek wrote: post #23

I think Netanyahu belongs in prison, and Trump, the less said the better, but: couldn't have happened to a nicer unauthorized weapons-grade uranium enrichment facility dug into the side of a mountain hours outside of population centers. If you haven't already, I highly recommend reading up on the GBU-57 "bunker buster" bomb, because it is some Merrie Melodies Acme brand munitions. It's deliberately as heavy as they c…

Gonna need a source for that whole "weapons-grade uranium" claim, otherwise you sound like the New York Times for the last 30 years. It's also very likely, and so far an exact figure is yet to be reported, that several smart, kind, and non-hostile scientists working towards a clean energy program were killed by this strike. Celebrating death for the sake of a hypothetical is a very dangerous attitude, and is frankly…

Could you maybe sync up with this person and hash this all out and come back to me with what it is I believe? Thanks!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349794

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