If I was a judge in the US right now then I would feel very strongly that there is a metaphorical bus I need to go sit in right now.
FBI arrests judge accused of helping man evade immigration authorities
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I’m not trying to defend this arrest, but that’s not really how it works. If there’s an obvious illegal motivation for doing X and the person who did X can’t supply a plausible alternative explanation, then a jury may conclude that X was done with the illegal motivation. Say that I take an item from a store. That’s only a crime if I did it with the intent of stealing it. But the prosecution doesn’t really have to “pr…
> then a jury may conclude that X was done with the illegal motivation I think the whole point of a jury trial is that a jury may conclude absolutely anything, regardless of evidence presented.
Yes, exactly. And that means that trying to be a smart ass (I had a perfectly cromulent motive for doing it but I’m not going to tell you what it is and you have to prove I didn’t – nyah!) isn’t likely to be a very effective defense.
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#953Democratic states really need to start disallowing federal agents to operate within their borders and band together. Activate their respective national guards and make it happen. Yes, that means defying federal law. Yes that means exactly the consequences you want to draw from those actions. There is no other option at this point. The law is dead in the U.S.
Why are deportations of illegal immigrants bad? Come here legally and be properly vetted. The law is dead if states defy it by refusing to allow federal agents to enforce immigration law. This whole stance is absolute madness.
Why is attacking a strawman bad?
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#954Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's been all over the news. Here's one incident: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detain...
Thank you, I hadn’t come across this news story yet! Believe it or not, I just double checked and it’s not in my Apple News feed at all. It sounds like there was a language barrier and he misidentified himself as being in the country illegally. That’s very unfortunate that he was detained for that misunderstanding.
No, BP lied.
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#955I'm not very familiar with US laws, but why wouldn't the FBI agents likewise be arrested for interfering with the judge's court case? Let's say I murder someone. I definitely did it, and there's plenty of evidence. What's stopping my hypothetical ICE buddy from showing up at my first court appearance, arresting me, and deporting me to a country without extradition by claiming that I am an "illegal immigrant"?
Is this qhy everyone is worried about illegal immigrants comitting crimes? Because they have a get-out-of-jail-free?
I'm worried about illiteracy.
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#956Why are the people of Wisconsin taking this without a fight? Sit ins in local FBI branch offices and police stations are in order. Groups of protestors stand in front of police car parking lots—if the piggies can’t leave their sty, they can’t destroy our democracy.
What makes you think people aren't doing that? They are. You're wrong about that last bit, though.
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#957Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another key point is that generally speaking the charge of obstruction of justice requires two ingredients: 1) knowledge of a government proceeding 2) action with intent to interfere with that proceeding It doesn't especially matter in this case whether ICE was entitled to enter the courtroom because she's not being charged for refusing to allow them entry to the room. The allegation is that upon finding out about th…
This is the constitutional crisis. You are taking ICE's/the administration's perspective and assuming it is cogent which leads you to conclusion that doesn't support justice and instead supports the end of constitutional rule in the US. The administration is in open violation of supreme court rulings and the law. They have repeatedly shown contempt for the constitution. They have repeatedly assumed their own supremac…
>>imagine if KKK members deciding to become police officers and how that changes the subjective experience of law by citizens compared to what law says on paper.
You have just described a lot of US policing
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The thesis is that immigrants have no constitutional rights because they aren't citizens, or the stronger form, that they are invaders and thus enemy combatants. The Supreme Court is going to have to clarify the existence or non-existence of constitutional rights for people living here unlawfully. And then the populace is going to have to make sure that the president doesn't conclude that he can ignore that ruling if…
> The thesis is that immigrants have no constitutional rights because they aren't citizens... The constitution is quite clear on this issue and it has been affirmed repeatedly over the last 100+ years by the high courts. Anyone and everyone in the world who is on US soil and subject to US jurisdiction is considered a "US Person". This status is regardless of their nationality/nation of origin, the manner by which the…
You're preaching to the choir!
Despite this history, the Court is still going to have to reiterate this.
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#960How often does it happen in the us that a judge get arrested?
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