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Post by lurk2 »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #917
lurk2 wrote: post #857

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> but outsourcing that decision to a reddit mouth-breather whose only qualification for moderating is that he showed up to r/whatever back in 2013 before anyone else is not the way to detect those differences. Spez once compared these people to a landed gentry; they are not unlike domain squatters. Notably, 4chan is basically identical in this regard. I’ve been banned from /lit/, /trv/, and /his/ for posts that the j…

>Hacker News is superior by almost every metric. In the most narrow of topics, it's semi-superior... and because of bizarre circumstances that aren't easily replicated. We can't do politics here (though that erodes every day, looks like), which keeps the worst shit-shows out of here, but anywhere else that wouldn't ever happen. dang is some sort of minor saint, had this been reddit that would have morphed into "we ca…

> Even in that one topic (tech, software, engineering) we still have these bizarre status quo opinions that you dare not buck.

This line might exist, but I have yet to see it. I have seen users on this forum advocate for eugenics and murdering CEOs, and not obliquely.

> But that was earlier than 2016. Might have to go back to 2012ish. Pre-2010 even.

It was around the time they banned /r/TheDonald. There was still a ton of good discussion going on there until that point. The new app also brought in a ton of casual users who didn’t fit with the site’s historical demographic of cerebral young men.

> Doubtful. Then instead of bans, it's just a bunch of weirdo tiny forums that have all de-federated from each other.

That’s the problem I haven’t figured out. In theory you could have a branching moderation authority that could be forked if the moderator starts abusing their power, but the issue is that most users won’t notice anything is wrong until years after the problem arises.

> No technical solution can exist to fix that sort of a problem.

Would you not consider a shift back to personal networking a technical solution to the problem?

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Post by popcalc »

greazy wrote: post #419
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #206

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> 4chan is oddly accepting of gay and trans people. I've seen gay and trans porn side by side with bbc and bwc porn posts. Strange to see racist trans porn lovers. It only seems odd because many people interpret this through a U.S.A. “culture war” lens and “gay people”. You believe they're “accepting of gay people” in the sense of that culture war because of the “gay porn”. In reality, they take more of a classical G…

I should have used a better example to support my point. I was referring to the website it self allowing gay and trans content, and even other non mainstream content (furry, MLP). The content is not just porn related (though a big chunk of it is). On the porn front, I don't agree with liking 'lady dick' twink lovers only. There's 'normal' gay content (male on male). On the non porn content, lots of posts will begin w…

>There's 'normal' gay content (male on male).

Some would argue you're describing autoandrophilia (not seen in all cultures).

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Post by codexon »

lurk2 wrote: post #816
codexon wrote: post #375

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> I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. Because it is the 2nd most active category, and the racist/alt-right beliefs have spread to the other boards because the head admin fires anyone that tries to moderate it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-helped-turn-4cha... On top of that, they actively delete and ban posts that go against alt-right. I discussed it somewhat recently here: htt…

> On top of that, they actively delete and ban posts that go against alt-right. Lurk moar.

I've been "lurking" on 4chan since it was 2 years old. I think that is more than enough time. Also not interested in conforming to group think on 4chan when the entire point of the place is no censorship.

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Post by ropable »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #675
shipscode wrote: post #126

The take on 4chan on here is super intriguing. I always felt that the current social media/doomscroll/memesharing landscape which has become so common worldwide is indiscernable and in some ways worse than 4chan. It feels like 4chan left it's homepage and went worldwide sometime in the early 2010s when iPhone-style phone use became more commonplace. I remember that 4chan users had more honor than users on the interne…

4chan will always be superior than modern social media to me, for one very simple reason: all posts are anonymous and there is no voting/ranking. Each and every post must stand alone and be judged alone. You do not know if it was posted by someone you hate or adore. It doesn't get hidden or promoted based on what a bubble voted. You see the post and you must judge it alone.

Hard disagree. Finding anything of quality on 4chan is like searching for gold nuggets by hand in a mountain of radioactive poop. The only times I've ever seen anything useful in there is when someone else has already done the hard work of curating a post.

The core reason why HN is superior (IMO) is the curation and the moderation.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

tapoxi wrote: post #652
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #633

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No. Not even close. Far closer to Obama and his circle. Around Carpocalypse 2008, a bunch of three letter agencies started pushes for internet connected vehicles knowing the tech wasn’t there; but would be. I watched it happen. There was some shady shit, and the reality was 2008 wasn’t just about GM and Chrysler but and entire JustInTime mistake that could have stopped almost all car production around the world. Diff…

Obama wasn't president until January 2009.

Also, you can remind me who bailed out GM and Chrysler (which again, debatable move).

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Post by seanw444 »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #896
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #206

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> 4chan is oddly accepting of gay and trans people. I've seen gay and trans porn side by side with bbc and bwc porn posts. Strange to see racist trans porn lovers. It only seems odd because many people interpret this through a U.S.A. “culture war” lens and “gay people”. You believe they're “accepting of gay people” in the sense of that culture war because of the “gay porn”. In reality, they take more of a classical G…

Hardly universal, if you go to those threads and BBC threads it's usually full of people also commenting that they believe it's a Jewish psyop to corrupt young men

Funny enough, the revelations are that a large chunk of posts come from Israel.

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Post by brnaftr361 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #540
shipscode wrote: post #126

The take on 4chan on here is super intriguing. I always felt that the current social media/doomscroll/memesharing landscape which has become so common worldwide is indiscernable and in some ways worse than 4chan. It feels like 4chan left it's homepage and went worldwide sometime in the early 2010s when iPhone-style phone use became more commonplace. I remember that 4chan users had more honor than users on the interne…

Multiple white supremacist mass shooter have been 4chan users and they cheered on the Buffalo shooter who was live updating during his murder spree: https://www.thetrace.org/newsletter/4chan-moderation-buffalo... The christchurch shooter was a 4chan regular https://theconversation.com/christchurch-terrorist-discussed... The whole "boogaloo" white nationalist/supremacist movement started on 4chan: https://www.splcente…

Do it for 2ch now.

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Post by busterarm »

DrillShopper wrote: post #939
busterarm wrote: post #413

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the fash trend on /pol/ died somewhere around 2018 and has shifted significantly radleft in the years since. This is misunderstood by outsiders largely because /pol/ users don't actually hold these opinions, they just will represent whatever is the edgiest opinion at any given time. And despite things like shooting pharma executives in broad daylight being mainstream now, /pol/lacks rightly recognize that this is sti…

> This is misunderstood by outsiders largely because /pol/ users don't actually hold these opinions, they just will represent whatever is the edgiest opinion at any given time. There is no functional difference between the two, especially to the groups this behavior harms.

Stated harm is vastly overblown. Your average /pol/ack is too unmotivated to ever leave the house or even have an in person social interaction with a non-family member. It's a gathering place for the NEETs and hikkikomori of society. It's too unwelcoming to anyone with a functioning mental state and their activities live and die within that board.

You can't just peer into their world and judge them by the same standards as normal society.

If the mere existence of a place where people voice highly disagreeable opinions is an existential threat to you, then I think that says more about you.

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Post by lubujackson »

axus wrote: post #807
vanschelven wrote: post #688

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Reminds me of Bill Gates & GM (apparently discredited though) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/car-balk/

7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light. ... 10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna. 11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary…

I have a Mercedes that has an OFF button for the A/C. Took me way too long to realize it is just a badly named Power button.

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Post by idiotsecant »

esseph wrote: post #908
dmonitor wrote: post #357

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That's crazy. The whole "dank memes" thing and terms like based, boomer, wojak, and soy are all from channer culture. 4chan managed to brand gen Z as the "zoomer" generation. Its cultural pervasiveness is impossibly deep.

Yes, very right wing culture. The internet is BIG and atomized.

When 4chan was young it was only right wing in the sense that people would pretend to be right wing because it was so stupid. Over time the ratio of people pretending to people being serious started to shift...
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