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Post by 0x6c6f6c »

nathancahill wrote: post #735
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

I'd argue WhatsApp is better positioned (globally).

WhatsApp being owned by Meta likely detracts from this though.

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Post by ZeroTalent »

physicles wrote: post #653
talldayo wrote: post #359

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> Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription. I really wonder what the uptake is on iCloud+ subscriptions.

I avoided subscribing for years out of principle, just backed up my photos locally (which they make as painful as possible — afaik it’s not possible to just plug your phone into a Linux machine and grab all the new photos). I finally caved a few months ago when I got tired of fighting with the awful backup storage UI that makes it difficult to determine why the backup is failing even though it’s smaller than 5GB. App…

But, in my experience, it's extremely fast. Noticeably faster syncing than Dropbox. And even the Windows client is being constantly updated.

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Post by ZeroTalent »

green_leaves wrote: post #818
canucker2016 wrote: post #357

I think some demographic info can be useful in judging the potential uptake. Apple iPhone ownership amongst USA teens: 2024: 87% 2019: 83% 2014: 67% https://www.iclarified.com/95177/87-of-us-teens-own-iphones-... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/piper-jaffray-completes-se... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/different-new-cool-accordi... Smartphone marketshare for iPhone in various countries: 65%: Norway 59%: Sweden…

Norway data from statcounter doesn't seem reliable. In just 4 months, July->October 2024, there's a 14% upswing in iphone total marketshare. Which implies that at least 14% of users bought a new phone, assuming (wrongly) that everybody would have changed from Android to iPhone (ignoring also deceases and teenagers getting their first phone). And the period doesn't even include Black Friday or Christmas. And barely th…

Samsung shoot itself in the foot as a phone manufacturer in the last 2 years. Battery life, forced apps, ads, and a pretty bad implementation of the Android OS while trying to sell the phone at the same price as the iPhone.

The S24 ultra still has an ancient 3x cam that has been left unchanged since the S21 ultra.

It's hard to compete when Apple has the Macbook + iPhone synergy/ecosystem advantage.

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Post by worthless-trash »

Schiendelman wrote: post #939
worthless-trash wrote: post #926

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Samsung S22+, Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (aka everywhere but europe). I buy an Esim for countries I visit, usually before I go. Add it before the flight, sometimes in the country. List of countries I have worked with: Singapore (Roaming), Indonesia, Malaysia (I may have been roaming in Malaysia) I can't find the esim info, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, India (Maybe i was roaming, can't remember).

Right. As I said in the other thread attached to GP, Google is actually hacking RCS in a non-standard way to make you work. Apple can't do that, and the RCS standard is basically half done, so it absolutely sucks on any devices that have to use the standard rather than Google's implementation.

I assumed you meant google devices. Aka pixel.

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Post by phatskat »

pohuing wrote: post #927
john2x wrote: post #378

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A quick search suggests the Android user end needs to install 3rd party apps for it to work? Has that changed recently?

I wrote an "SMS" to the previous tenant of my new flat recently and it got seamlessly upgraded to rcs. With me on an android and them on an iPhone. This was using Google messages, which was the default on my zenfone for sms

My friend group chat was suddenly RCS after updating iOS today and it’s great - no more “So and so liked ‘the entire message body’” messages, we all just see the thumbs up reaction

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by JohnBooty »

thayne wrote: post #713
JohnBooty wrote: post #686

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Just so I understand: it's bad for Apple to have a proprietary E2EE solution, but it's good for Google to have one, and additionally it's Apple's fault for not using Google's?

Standardized interoperable E2EE > Proprietary E2EE > client-to-server encryption > no encryption It isn't as simple as "apple bad, google good". Apple/iOS having E2EE is good. Apple refusing to cooperate at all in making E2EE interoperable with non apple products is bad. Google/Android having E2EE is good, and better than the claim above that RCS doesn't have E2EE by default. The fact that it is a proprietary extensi…

    Standardized interoperable E2EE
This isn't the thing you want it to be. Somebody has to broker connections and/or key exchange.

You don't get to arbitrarily send messages to the device of somebody on the other side of the world unless a 3rd party is providing those services.

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