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I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

Never had TikTok, but that's exactly what I thought when Youtube introduced Shorts and I found myself spending long sessions in them. However, now I think it's the same infinite scroll we already had in twitter and reddit -- but instead of text and images, now it's just videos. At the beginning the content was really dumb and bad, but after some time it became way better. Now my feed is basically cooking recipes, che…

Don't download titkok. It's like Shorts but works a lot better.

Both are like using slot machines but on tiktok you win (dopamine hit) more often - or at whatever rate the house wants you to.

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What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

The goal was always to get TikTok divested of Chinese ownership, not to ban it. The ban was the stick and selling it for a lot of money was the carrot. ByteDance surprised almost everyone in choosing the stick.

> The goal was always to get TikTok divested of Chinese ownership, not to ban it.

Seems like the goal pivoted recently - the goal is to keep TikTok Chinese and have them supporting the corrupt regime taking over the US, similar to other foreign adversaries have in the past

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While it’s back in the US, it seems to be a separate version from the rest of the world. My account is European and I can no longer log in within the US without a VPN out of the country. My GFs account is American and she can login but has lost access to some accounts and the ability to watch livestreams which my version of the app still has. I wonder if the 13 hour “outage” was for a larger scale data migration for…

I also can not see livestreams. It says "Unstable Network Connection". And I have 2 separate "air gapped" phones and TT accounts - no shared details and both behave the same. There are lots of conspiracy theories online. However, I think it is just that the process of bringing the stack back up may be difficult. They also have a huge shopping network, that has also been down, and there are emails/communications to sh…

Today morning, lives are back, link sharing (downloads) are working. Have not seen shops yet in 2 minutes of scrolling

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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

You're still thinking of him as a president and not as the new monarch of the US. I wouldn't be surprised if he is around for more than one term and incrementally greater and greater authoritarian powers.

Hes no spring chicken so that remains to be seen. I do however worry about who is waiting in the wings to ride on his coat tails.

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There's anecdotal evidence that something funky is going on in the background. More so than usual. A handful of very prominent creators critical of the US (or other) governments have had their accounts just disappear. The algorithm is also showing decidedly different type of content.

This is just the beginning. Not sure America will survive another 4+ years of this clown.

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What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

> Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly.

"Rep. Mike Waltz calls out the Biden campaign's TikTok account: 'They should be ashamed'":

* https://www.foxnews.com/video/6346831867112

Waltz chosen as Trump's national security advisor:

* https://www.npr.org/2024/11/11/nx-s1-5187098/trump-national-...

And currently "Trump security adviser doesn't rule out continued Chinese ownership of TikTok":

* https://www.reuters.com/technology/trump-security-adviser-do...

So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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> a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement They were following the law. Anything else is just promises by people who are not exactly known for following through with them Shutting down because the law says it, and to prevent really big penalties, is not making “a big political statement

It seems like striking fear into the hearts of users to make them realize a ban is really on the table is in their best interest. They want to not be banned, and giving everyone a 48 hour show of users on the platform counting down to the end, then being really upset when they think it's gone is a great demonstration that people want their Tiktok. * Trump gets a free layup to look like the hero for unbanning it * Tru…

I like how it is just a given that he is just going to ignore term limits.

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Completely unrelated but here’s the Wikipedia for an interesting book called The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-events in America: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Image:_A_Guide_to_Pseudo...

Similarly, you might be interested in the Adam Curtis documentary HyperNormalisation: https://vimeo.com/191817381

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_Un...

Fiduciary responsibilities make it unlikely that many companies would risk it. There’s always a chance you don’t come back, and there’s likely to be a loss of marketshare for simply being unavailable for a period and forcing users to trial alternatives. But, TikTok is not purely commercially focused. A majority of the voting stock of ByteDance is held by the Chinese government, who clearly see non-financial strategic…

> Fiduciary responsibilities make it unlikely that many companies would risk it.

When you are owned/controlled by an authoritative government you have the responsibility to not get disappeared. Just ask Jack Ma.

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I think apps like TikTok or YouTube Shorts literally brainwash people. It’s one of the dumbest things ever invented on the Internet, yet incredibly addictive at the same time.

Do you think forums like the one you are on right now do not?

We're the product of all the information we consume, but forums like HN aren't custom-tailoring what I'm shown to maximize engagement from me.
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