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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by rurp »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

As a counterpoint I've been involved with several companies in recent years that did not have a particularly difficult time hiring similar candidates. The only clear difference was that these jobs were remote friendly.

It's impossible to say for sure from the outside but a few factors that might be making it difficult for you to hire:

- A lot of tech workers value remote work these days.

- You aren't based in a location with a large enough talent pool for the work you do.

- Your company doesn't pay as well as you think, or has other details that turn off some potential applicants.

- It could be variance. There's a lot of randomness in the job market.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by rurp »

tivert wrote: post #847
pilotneko wrote: post #832

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget “we don’t build weapons…well the company does but my team doesn’t.”

> Don’t forget “we don’t build weapons…well the company does but my team doesn’t.” It's totally possible. There's an defense contractor in my area where all the work at the local office is on non-defense government projects.

Sure, but it could still be a deterrent for some applicants. They might not care enough about that distinction to apply to the company.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by GolberThorce »

0086b416f103 wrote: post #454
snakeyjake wrote: post #342

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My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

> We cannot find qualified applicants. Your company is incompetent. I've applied to hundreds of companies like yours within Huntsville, AL in the past year, rejected or ghosted all the time. Defense morons will talk about how hard their work is and how they can't find anyone to do it. Completely skip over how prevalent affirmative action is in their hiring process; who were you guys interviewing in 2020? Why is the d…

Defense industry has lower standards and higher salaries for tech jobs, because they're restricted to nationals only. Not sure about AA

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by FateOfNations »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #796
ziddoap wrote: post #19

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/18/2024-29... The tweet is a super brief summary, reproduced below. Founders can self petition (& spouses can work) - Own >50% of the entity, or have majority voting rights Roles tied to research institutions cap-exempt - Organizations where fundamental research is a key activity now qualify - Startups can hire researchers (AI, health, hardware) year-round Students ge…

I wonder if it is possible to found a US company and open a bank account for it while being a resident of Russian Federation, and then self-petition yourself for a visa....

Establishing a company in the US is easy, but you'd have difficulty finding a bank willing to do business with a brand new company with Russian beneficial owners (at least in the current geopolitical climate).

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by nonameiguess »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #566
brookst wrote: post #512

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Yes, because obviously we as a country should prioritize creepy VR avatars over understanding climate change. By this reasoning no charities should exist (they pay less than commercial orgs) and even people who are willing to work for less in order to feel good about their contribution should not be allowed to. It’s a very cynical, even nihilistic view.

Someone that wants to do some good in the world can have a bigger and better impact by getting paid much more and donating half the difference to charity. Working for a company that launches satellites that examine climate change is far less impactful. It's not worth a big pay cut even when you're focusing on altruistic motives.

This is entirely reasonable as marginal analysis but it's not universalizable. Ultimately, somebody has to work for the charities or there wouldn't be anything to donate to.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by pnw »

strongpigeon wrote: post #276
pnw wrote: post #253

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One might have more than just a gripe with Infosys given they recently admitted to defrauding the visa system over decades and paid a record $34m fine. How many Americans lost out on jobs as a result? We'll never know. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/indian-corporation-pays-re...

It’s worth saying though that this fine is for lying and abusing the B-1 visas (to circumvent H-1b limitations). That being said I still believe there are a lot of issues with these companies regarding their H-1bs in the first place.

I'm willing to wager that a company breaking the law for B-1 visas is also abusing the law for H1B visas, they just haven't been caught yet.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by wakawaka28 »

ponow wrote: post #808
wakawaka28 wrote: post #510

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>I applied to a similar position locally this year. I far exceed their requirements and experience and I got rejected at the application stage. Could be "This one is overqualified, we can't pay that much" or "He doesn't have experience in the exact thing we need." Or just that they want a qualified applicant but they've got lots of options.

But then the narrative of "there aren't enough qualified people" collapses, and H1-Bs unjustified.

I thought that the original comment was about a company that could not fill with H1-Bs yet they didn't contact him either. There are many reasons that he might not be contacted. I think there are plenty of US programmers for jobs that require only US persons. At least, my experience with those jobs has been that being basically qualified is insufficient to get much interest. They're looking for other things, like very particular experience, salary range, security clearance, demographic characteristics, etc.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by liontwist »

darth_avocado wrote: post #893
liontwist wrote: post #649

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Good. There is no shortage of doctors except the one created by accreditation cartel.

There absolutely is. Especially in underserved areas.

You mean the ones where the 400k/yr young single people don’t want to work?

It’s the same problem. Accreditation is so expensive there are no mid range doctors anymore.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

> We won't re-teach linear algebra to a developer applicant but we will pay a tech writer to go to school nights/weekends to get a degree in engineering (me, I did that).

Do you consider developer applicants who learned linear algebra on their own or through a product like Math Academy?

Google, MS and other large tech companies do.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by starspangled »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #907
rgbrenner wrote: post #851

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We cannot find qualified applicants. ... [a bunch of requirements] ... No, we don't pay as much as Meta. ... [some more requirements] The shortage on $5000 ferarris continues as well.

I work in the space. You are massively understating the difficulty of finding candidates willing to get a security clearance, and the cost to the company of sponsoring those clearances. It's not as simple as the compensation number alone.

> I work in the space. You are massively understating the difficulty of finding candidates willing to get a security clearance, and the cost to the company of sponsoring those clearances. It's not as simple as the compensation number alone.

I don't understand what point you're trying to make. You're saying that a security clearance is a big problem or inconvenience that makes hiring more difficult so salary alone is not comparable... right, but the organization with that big problem is paying less. That's the problem.

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