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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by mrguyorama »

_flux wrote: post #769
murermader wrote: post #625

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Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is important, e.g. events, music, etc. No need for AI filtering algorithms that have to decide what to block and what to leave.

On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.

Oh no, what a pain, to make changes to the world based on a broad consensus of opinions, rather than relying on rapacious billionaires to helpfully put their surveillance device into all of our hands without our permission.

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

vundercind wrote: post #942
zooq_ai wrote: post #940

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Facebook still has 3B happy users. It's only privileged, highly-paid coastal elites that hate FB. Zuck, can literally say GFY as they don't matter in the broad scheme of things and innovations.

My non-computer-nerd midwestern friends, some of whom are blue collar and zero of whom are anywhere near making coastal FAANG or finance money, all hate Facebook.

Yes, but are they on Instagram though?

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Post by jazzyjackson »

dagmx wrote: post #430
jazzyjackson wrote: post #290

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I'll have to dig mine out of the box and try it again, version 1 of the os basically had one gesture which was click. I hate the gaze and click interface, it works OK for Netflix but invariably I would fall back to using the trackpad on my MacBook to actually do any work.

Subjective preferences aside… It has almost as many gestures as the trackpad or iPhone though. More gestures can be handled app side. There’s also direct touch of surfaces too.

Haven't seen that yet, it's a great idea to have a surface provide the tactile "bottom" of a keypress

https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/06/23/vision-pro-will-t...

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Post by jazzyjackson »

phyrex wrote: post #486
jazzyjackson wrote: post #285

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There's a Watch Now button that just brings me to a Facebook page with nothing to watch. Can't watch any of the posted videos without logging into Facebook. I guess they're not trying to win any new converts at this point.

That's not true you can just close the login modal and watch the presentations without logging in

Weird. It works for me now. Previously I would get the login modal every time I tapped the unmute icon.

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Post by vundercind »

RhodesianHunter wrote: post #952
vundercind wrote: post #942

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My non-computer-nerd midwestern friends, some of whom are blue collar and zero of whom are anywhere near making coastal FAANG or finance money, all hate Facebook.

Yes, but are they on Instagram though?

Oh, yes, because that’s how network effects work. Every single one would be happy if Meta and all its properties folded tomorrow, though.

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Post by keiferski »

ang_cire wrote: post #922
keiferski wrote: post #784

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Keyboards may be more efficient, but do you see people using blackberries today? If your theory was correct, we wouldn’t all be using touchscreens.

> we wouldn’t all be using touchscreens We're not, for tasks that require speed and accuracy (like typing). We're mostly using keyboards and mice/ trackpads. Touchscreens are used on low-impact, secondary devices like phones or tablets. I've never once seen someone, whose work is digital, replace their computer with a phone as their primary work device.

Sure, but where did I say that work computers would be replaced by VR/AR? In my original comment I specially said phones might seem anachronistic. And the usage of phones (computing devices) almost certainly dwarfs usage of standalone computers.

You are somewhat arguing against a straw man here. I was talking about phones being unnatural and thus replaced by AR/VR.

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Post by irq-1 »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #857
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

The technology they've packed into these things is amazing - it's an incredible achievement. But, that said, there's also plenty of room for negativity around the actual product conception. It may have niche applications, but it just doesn't seem that most people need or want AR for everyday use - it's a solution looking for a problem. For gaming VR seems a better fit than AR, and same for Metaverse in general. AR se…

I think it's telling that any movie or game with cool AR visuals includes access to huge(!) amounts of data, like face recognition + criminal history.

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Post by nick486 »

zer0zzz wrote: post #874
stiray wrote: post #826

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Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Why ? The discussion is about fixing brand reputation, and he quotes probably one of the most disgustingly successful rebrands in history. If even IG Farben managed to successfully rebrand, surely a company that just went "a little too far" with private data, can too. Looks quite on topic to me.

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Post by JoeMerchant »

shiroiushi wrote: post #584
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The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was. I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. Never really come across a use case that's compelling for me. Getting WhatsApp messages without taking my phone out of my pocket feels like the opposite to the direction I'd like to move in.

>I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. I do: to display a moving map from Google Maps while cycling. It'd be incredibly handy for navigation in a city. Everyone these days uses a navigation app in their car to navigate (esp. to unfamiliar destinations), but how do you do that on a bicycle? You can get one of those phone mounts for your handlebars, but it's reall…

Want another unsolicited opinion?

Peak Design has, in my opinion, a better solution than quadmount - it mounts securely (magnet + slot) and keeps the ability to wirelessly charge. Do have to use their case though, but it's a very attractive case. I use it in conjunction with the Trek BellBeats and I'm satisfied.

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Post by salemh »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #347
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #293

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

We already put a phone in their hands by kindergarten... I think any kind of flashy tech in front of kid's eyes is almost always bad.

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