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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by poincaredisk »

deanCommie wrote: post #736
gengwyn wrote: post #412

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Sometimes this translates even down to the individual level. I've watched a lot of police bodycam videos and it's surprising how many people make their situation worse by being loud obnoxious tightwads when calmly answering questions and handing over your license would have you on your way in 5 minutes.

I get what you're saying, but being an obnoxious tightwad isn't actually against the rules, and it's not OK that there are some societies in the world where being an obnoxious tightwad towards a force ostensibly tasked with PROTECTING their fellow citizens (including the obnoxious one) will take this as a cue to 1) violate your civil liberties/rights, and/or 2) commit bodily harm to your person, and then 3) get away…

>I am scared of the police. In the rare times I have to interact with them I am overwhelmingly polite and cautious because I know that they have the ability to fuck up my day, and maybe my life.

What are you doing to justify feeling like this? Is it just out of abundance of caution? When I interact with police it's usually for boring reasons - like I broke some petty law and they justifiably question me about it (and more often than not just let it slide, but they don't have to -after all they're just doing their job).

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by ted_dunning »

RIMR wrote: post #937
poincaredisk wrote: post #928

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>They are not "hackers" in anything but name A sweeping generalisation. Being a "hacker" is a multidimensional thing. Most people here have a hacker spirit when it comes to curiosity and willingness to learn. The only thing we don't have in common with you idea of a hacker -in general- is the anti establishment attitude.

Yeah, that's why you're a fake hacker. http://phrack.org/issues/7/3.html

The original definitions (before Phrack) were substantially different. From the Hacker's dictionary, for instance, we see:

> HACK n. 1. Originally a quick job that produces what is needed, but not well. 2. The result of that job. 3. NEAT HACK: A clever technique. Also, a brilliant practical joke, where neatness is correlated with cleverness, harmlessness, and surprise value. Example: the Caltech Rose Bowl card display switch circa 1961. 4. REAL HACK: A crock (occasionally affectionate). v. 5. With "together", to throw something together so it will work. 6. To bear emotionally or physically. "I can't hack this heat!" 7. To work on something (typically a program). In specific sense: "What are you doing?" "I'm hacking TECO." In general sense: "What do you do around here?" "I hack TECO." (The former is time-immediate, the latter time-extended.) More generally, "I hack x" is roughly equivalent to "x is my bag". "I hack solid-state physics." 8. To pull a prank on. See definition 3 and HACKER (def #6). 9. v.i. To waste time (as opposed to TOOL). "Watcha up to?" "Oh, just hacking." 10. HACK UP (ON): To hack, but generally implies that the result is meanings 1-2. 11. HACK VALUE: Term used as the reason or motivation for expending effort toward a seemingly useless goal, the point being that the accomplished goal is a hack. For example, MacLISP has code to read and print roman numerals, which was installed purely for hack value. HAPPY HACKING: A farewell. HOW'S HACKING?: A friendly greeting among hackers. HACK HACK: A somewhat pointless but friendly comment, often used as a temporary farewell. [The word HACK doesn't really have 69 different meanings. In fact, HACK has only one meaning, an extremely subtle and profound one which defies articulation. Which connotation a given HACK-token has depends in similarly profound ways on the context. Similar comments apply to a couple other hacker jargon items, most notably RANDOM. - Agre]

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by adwn »

sumedh wrote: post #875
doctorpangloss wrote: post #572

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It did. YouTube has paid the piper here and continues to do so. It pays a lot of money to record labels right now. TV networks choose to run their own streaming, and YouTube enforces what networks ask for. Consider what things look like when you can't pirate. Many services now, like Claude, do not let you create password accounts, to make it less practicable to share a subscription. Apple News and Apple Arcade is tot…

> Claude, do not let you create password accounts, to make it less practicable to share a subscription. How does that prevent sharing, you can just setup email forwarding with someone else you want to share the account.

>> […] less practicable […]

not impossible. Having to forward login emails creates more friction than sharing a password once.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by [deleted] »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #945
talldayo wrote: post #919

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>You gotta use other sites if you prefer the company of ideologues with a backbone. Apologists and sycophants will outnumber you 10:1, here. For one example of this in action, saying anything positive about cryptocurrency and being bombarded by the usual "it's a scam". "We need KYC and AML because governments are simply trying to keep us safe" "All transactions should be fully controlled" and so forth. Absurd.

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by rustcleaner »

malwrar wrote: post #911
rustcleaner wrote: post #791

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>Isn't it wiser to stop at some point, and find other stuff to do, even if all your nerves say otherwise? No, you make tools which are easily copied and spread which disempower states and groups and instead empower individuals to act unimpeded. You make tools which make it impossible to enforce copyright or any other state imperative because everybody has the tools needed to neutralize the group attempting to use for…

The problem is, then they just go after the tools. There’s absolutely nothing stopping one from creating a pirate streaming tool based on e.g. torrents, but popcorntime doesn’t exist precisely because the movie industry frowned intensely at them. The core problem is that the government, if compelled to act, seems able to do whatever it wants to protect rich people’s interests. Cute loopholes like making tools vs shar…

Because people don't generally build from the ground up like they're selling fake IDs and cocaine on the darknet. They have no experience, and no understanding on how normal everyday choices and behaviors leave trails which track back to them. When they register a domain, did they use false info? Payment cards well detached from their identities? Do they post code to GitHub with accounts tied to their personal e-mail addresses? Does any normal person sit down like me and think about the ways their true identity can be discovered? "LOL no I'm not selling drugs or snuff so I have nothing to hide nothing to fear! :^)" is the chorus most recited. Ergo, when MPAA lawyers come knocking, they got the dox and they got men with submachine guns and badges on speed dial.

Set it up right and you can thumb your nose at all of them forever.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by rustcleaner »

hgfhfdg wrote: post #903
fnordian_slip wrote: post #863

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I've never understood that sentiment. The US has the second amendment, and it doesn't seem to do much for personal freedom there. Europe does not, and I feel a lot more free in most European countries than I do in the US, especially when it comes to encounters with representatives of the state (LEOs).

There was a twitter thread where someone from Russia said he was beaten up by police in Netherlands during a peaceful protest. He was accused of attending the wrong protest by twitter Europhiles. Now, something tells me it's easy to feel safe when you conform.

Guns ensure the minority can exact maximum pain on the majority, on the occasions that the majority decides to pounce.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by Suppafly »

mesmertech wrote: post #670
Suppafly wrote: post #666

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unrelated, but why is your username a different color than the others in this thread?

its that color for people who recently signed up

interesting that's the first time I've noticed it.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by UncreativeAlias »

Kim was not the robin-hood like figure he portrayed himself to be. If anything he was the opposite given the many illegal dealings he was engaged in before creating Megaupload, and his bad reputation in some German technology communities for being a rat. Kim also in all probability is guilty. I hold no love for Kim however I can't agree with this ruling. Despite Kim's conduct; the case against him has been so rife with so much extreme police and prosecutorial misconduct it should've been thrown out ages ago.

Some of the misconduct in this case includes but is not limited to:

- Abusing the power of a national security agency to illegally spy on him, which lead to the Prime Minister being forced to publicly apologizing due to the political fallout.

- Attempting to freeze his defense funds

- Performing a no knock raid utilizing a heavily armed anti-terrorism task force for a non-violent crime, which lead to the department being successfully sued by all parties for excessive force.

- Performing an illegal search by intentionally and knowingly filling out an improper warrant, and having had the crown admit this.

- Sending the evidence ruled to be illegally obtained to the FBI regardless

- Allowing a foreign government to maliciously apply to revoke someone's bail the day they can no longer afford their lawyer

- Already ruling that under New Zealand law you cannot be extradited for copyright infringement, but proceeding with the case regardless for the more flimsy fraud charges.

Kim is a bad person who very likely is guilty, but at what point do we draw a line and say the abuse of process has been so great it harms the reputation of the legal system to proceed? Cases are routinely completely thrown out for much less. It's frankly a travesty towards the legal system that this case has been allowed to continue, especially given the charges.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by theultdev »

Taniwha wrote: post #739
halyconWays wrote: post #443

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>ran out of options He'd have one more option to fight tyranny, if your government didn't disarm the populace. Imagine being yanked out of your home country by a foreign power and their corporate overlords with the prospect of living the rest of your life in third-world prison conditions, for the crime of allegedly reducing their balance sheets from $550B per year to $545B per year.

Our populace is pretty heavily armed, hunting is pretty ingrained in the national psyche. No one's arguing for getting rid of hunting rifles. Pistols and semiautomatics, things designed to kill people are illegal and most of us are quite happy with that, especially after we had a foreign terrorist kill 100 innocent people in a mosque.

terrorist do illegal things, including smuggling in guns.

not great to take away firepower from citizens while the terrorists have guns.

you end up waiting around for the police, which may or may not be prepared or even arrive on time.

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