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Post by rangestransform »

com2kid wrote: post #580
echelon wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish we had more than two phone giants. This is aggravating. Unfortunately due to their market dominance and muddling of (hardware, OS, software distribution, and platform ecosystem), it's almost impossible to disentangle. It'd be amazing if the DOJ made these companies only offer one slice of those four things. There would be so much competition and a wild variety of new things being tried.

> Unfortunately due to their market dominance and muddling of (hardware, OS, software distribution, and platform ecosystem), it's almost impossible to disentangle. I think it is more complicated, and nuanced, than this. I have a theory that the world can only support a maximum of 2 consumer computing platforms at a time, due to the cost of writing and porting software. Therefore causing a natural tendency towards eit…

I think it's good that android exists because it keeps governments from trying to ruin my vertically integrated iphone experience

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by zooq_ai »

rockskon wrote: post #877
zooq_ai wrote: post #801

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I Use Hacker News for technical input. on an average, HN crowd is pretty clueless about a) running a profitable business b) foreseeing technological progress -- say two iterations down the line. c) mass adoption of features On an average, they tend to be elitist and don't represent the average brand popularity (e.g Google, Meta, Amazon). They only mildly upvote technology that helps their extremely privileged life. E…

> Metaverse No quicker way to signal how little you know about technology than to promote something niche that doesn't function well on most cheap electronics.

Thanks for proving my point of not looking Two iterations down the line

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Post by Daegalus »

Ugh, I can't decide what to do. I am moving to Denmark from the US on Sept 3rd.

Denmark does not have trade-in deals. But between my wife and I, we can get a whole phone free with the trade-ins in the US.

We can also do international shipping and such through forwarding services, and that would eat into the savings, but still do so.

Then there is bands. THey are almost identical, except a few here and there, and I can't find a concrete place to get info on Denmark bands (multiple sources have different info or lack of info).

Is it worth switching out and going through the hassle and getting US pixels, and just deal with the Denmark prices, and try to sell the Pixel 6s we have. It is annoying.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by mariushn »

rurp wrote: post #944
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

I think it's because Google could make a great phone, but choose not to. They keep adding gimmicky features that myself and apparently many other HNers don't care for, while core functionality is neglected and often regresses. I own a Pixel 8 Pro and it is without a doubt the worst phone I have owned in at least a decade. The amount of bugs for such an expensive product is mind boggling. One of main features is the c…

What others would you recommend under $800? I looked at Motorola, but the camera quality is bad.

I found this useful https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/

Using a Xiaomi now, but Android Auto doesn't work for me (other brands on the same car work fine)

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Post by CydeWeys »

adamc wrote: post #255
CydeWeys wrote: post #20

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Picture taking and video recording have gotten unbelievably better over the past decade. They were not remotely sufficient for many use cases ten years ago and even now there's still plenty of room left for improvement.

Not all of us care. I barely use the camera on my phone.

Right, but obviously it's something that plenty of people do care about, and is a big driver of keeping me on the upgrade cycle.

And "there is a big difference but not everyone cares about it" is quite different from "there isn't a big difference". The latter is clearly false.

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Post by mikae1 »

squarefoot wrote: post #925
eadmund wrote: post #918

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> If Google wanted to actually improve their phones … … they would enable swapping button order. … they would remove gestures. … they would improve OS stability. … they would add a hardware do not disturb switch. … they would add hardware camera and microphone switches. … they would add a headphone jack. Their phones are still preferable to iPhones, because at least with a Pixel one owns one’s own phone.

I think the best reason to use a Google phone is that turns out it's one of the easiest to Un-Google by installing GrapheneOS.

This. I was kind of shocked when I realized I had completed the installation of GrapheneOS via my web browser.

I will likely pay a premium for the Pixel convenience when it's time to get a new phone. Will run this 6a until support ends.

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Post by apatheticonion »

privacyking wrote: post #767
kccqzy wrote: post #692

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I thought the older Pixel 8 Pro already had a "desktop mode" feature for that.

I'm pretty sure it's half baked and useless

This.

It would be perfect if I could run a Linux DE with full hardware acceleration (within a container or VM?) that replaces the Android desktop mode

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Post by deepsun »

mdaniel wrote: post #939
deepsun wrote: post #689

Still no dedicated fingerprint scanner, as it was in Pixel 4a :( And it was awesome! Super-fast, tactile feeling, right under the finger, doesn't blind you at night. Cannot understand why they removed it, cost-cutting?

I also detest that screen based reader with all my heart, but as a point of observation if you have your phone in a car holder it masks access to the physical fingerprint reader, making a situation where your phone locks while on the road some nonsense to unlock it. I'm aware of the plethora of "keep phone unlocked" settings, but my life experience has been that Google's gonna Google about when it wants "extra sekuri…

We can have both at the same time. Turn them on/off in settings. I'd pay for that at least +$100.

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Post by seoulmetro »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #897
seoulmetro wrote: post #644

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> Marketing for phones is probably more diverse and carefully balanced than for any other product category. Marketing for phones is forcibly (over) diverse and carefully not balanced but constructed than for any other product category. They do not market objectively to the customers. They market by emotion and political correctness. Just try to find a straight, white male, dare I say, two white male friends in a Goog…

This isn't Facebook.

Yes, Meta is one of the companies that also market this way.

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Post by henryfjordan »

oorza wrote: post #559
henryfjordan wrote: post #507

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> Marketing for phones is probably more diverse and carefully balanced than for any other product category. How can that be true when there's only 2 phone OSes of note and one single company sells half the phones in the US? There's not enough diversity in the market to create the conditions for diverse marketing. If anything it's a race to the middle. When there are 2 shops in town, they tend to become more similar n…

He said diversity of marketing, not diversity of product. Marketing is how you're selling, not what you're selling.

Marketing in a space like phones where Apple is trying desperately to differentiate is intrinsically tied to product design.
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