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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

>E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office.

That'd be a good way to force the government into caring about improving health and extending life expectancy.

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Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

The president has a large support staff to keep the lights on most of the time. Unless the nation is physically under attack, the president's day-to-day job is probably physically less demanding than that of pilots. They have plenty of time for golf.

>They have plenty of time for golf.

Only the bad ones. The good ones have less downtime than a regular person. Random dudes you work with probably golf more than most presidents do.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Political parties aren’t democratic institutions. They are essentially private organizations who can operate however they want. It’s only been the last 50 years or so that either party has used primaries as anything more than a straw poll

Political parties should be democratic institutions. Who else should be democratic if not the parties? In many countries candidates are rejected from elections if parties cannot show that they were selected in a fair, transparent and democratic process. The USA has much to learn from the rest of the democratic world.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

There's a constitutional requirement that the candidate must be at least 35[1], which seems arbitrary to me. That was decided in 1787. I wonder what age they would have picked as a maximum age back then. I say that because (at least these days) it seems almost impossible to change, and people live a lot longer. Like we might be stuck with "Any age between 35 and 57" because people died young in 1787 relative to now.…

I wonder if you can reliably adjust ages for 'inflation' like you can for other things. 35 back in 1787 has be to close to 50 or so today.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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What about Biden as VP? He would stay around to support Kamala and the formula would benefit from his popularity.

If Biden is unfit to run and there was an adhoc referendum for him to step down, why would he be fit to be VP?

You are probably right. I stated the why in my comment (known name, trust, experience). The requirements for VP are usually lower than for President. If the only reason to be unfit is age, Trump is just four years younger than Biden and also makes mistakes and says nonsense (Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley…)

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

I'm all for it. But when the average senator is over 60 and rising, and the majority voter base themselves are generally 60+, it'll be a hard law to pass from both fronts. And as others mentioned, this is a bipartisan stance, so it's not a matter of political leanings. Old people represent most of our voter-base and thus most of our represenatives.

> But when the average senator is over 60 and rising, and the majority voter base themselves are generally 60+, it'll be a hard law to pass from both fronts.

I have less problems with boomers in general than a lot of people do, but honestly this is one of those things that's going to improve as time goes on and boomers die off.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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That's a pretty interesting thought. I read something a few years ago that said moderates/non-affiliated make up the majority of voters with only a smaller percentage on left and right tied to the parties (somewhere maybe in 15% to 20% range on each side, can't remember exactly). So it seems like a good mix of moderate could possibly win, especially when the other candidate is so polarizing.

True-swing voters are a tiny minority. Most of the folks who say they’re unaffiliated or moderates or open to voting for either party in fact vote exactly like a self-reported partisan. They just don’t like the label. Lots of crappy reporting doesn’t differentiate between self-reported swing/moderates and true swing. GOTV matters more. Do your people show up at the polls?

>True-swing voters are a tiny minority.

Honestly, just like undecided voters, they are either a myth or complete idiots.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

What did Biden do to make America or the life of Americans better (or possibly worse for some)? Seems like America has been going backwards for a long time.

CHIPS act, IR act (infrastructure, jobs...), student loans effort, better social nets for seniors, millions of jobs, much better handling of inflation than the rest of the world, pushing for democracy and freedom. We can't go back to misogyny, racism, removing freedoms from women, teachers, different people, giving money only to the rich and connected, non-sense diplomacy...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Bear in mind that your life expectancy is higher as you get older. E.g. the life expectancy for a 72 yr old is not 73, its higher. But I agree with the general point about an age cap.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Politicians who refuse to retire is a huge, bipartisan problem in the US affecting both genders. Putting an age limit on the president or members of congress would probably have to be done via a constitutional amendment, because the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that states cannot add eligibility requirements that are not in the constitution. One reform that would help in Congress would be to modify the seniori…

Term Limits. No real math is required. Senate: 1 Term. 6 years. Not able to then serve in the House. House: 2 Terms. 4 years. Not able to then serve in the Senate. 1 Term House + 1 Term Senate. 8 years total. Elect any LEGAL Citizen regardless of age.

>Elect any LEGAL citizen regardless of age

I’m not sure why you feel the need to say “LEGAL citizen” and am kind of afraid to ask you to unpack it.

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