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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I wonder what a sensible way forward for Cubans is, and their government. What would it take for the US to lift sanctions (I assume a radical shift within Cuba's government), and for Cuba itself (as a whole) to restructure their government in a way that would benefit them and everyone. Cuba would be a great travel destination. Their cigars aren't as on par anymore as far as I know, but there's potential there, Nicara…

I've been smoking cigars for the past 15 years. I was lucky enough to have smoked only cuban cigars (which are legal where I'm from), so I know them very well. Nicaragua and Dominican Republic are garbage compared to Cubans, still to this day. Several times while in the US (where I've lived in the past few years) I tried to smoke non-cuban cigars. Not once I found something that was remotely close to the worse cuban…

I'm not in the US.

While the tobacco itself is unbeatable, Cuban cigars have quality control issues. You regularly run into draw issues, for example. Aging is typically required for best experience, which also isn't easy.

I smoke Olivas and Arturo Fuentes regularly, despite having access to Cubans.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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To my knowledge, there is no version of this claim that distinguishes between illegal and legal immigrants. (I'd be happy to be proven wrong.) In fact, it would be silly to claim that illegal immigrants as a group commit fewer crimes per capita than natives, since 100% of them have already violated laws by being on US soil to begin with. Legal immigrants, on the other hand, are absolutely less likely to engage in cri…

Whoa there - by your logic illegal immigrants should also keep their head down so they don’t get deported. Also, how are legal immigrants “selected for positive traits”?

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I've been smoking cigars for the past 15 years. I was lucky enough to have smoked only cuban cigars (which are legal where I'm from), so I know them very well. Nicaragua and Dominican Republic are garbage compared to Cubans, still to this day. Several times while in the US (where I've lived in the past few years) I tried to smoke non-cuban cigars. Not once I found something that was remotely close to the worse cuban…

I'm not in the US. While the tobacco itself is unbeatable, Cuban cigars have quality control issues. You regularly run into draw issues, for example. Aging is typically required for best experience, which also isn't easy. I smoke Olivas and Arturo Fuentes regularly, despite having access to Cubans.

I agree with your statement on quality control issues. Also fake cigars are a huge problem. I've heard about many cases of cigars made in Cuba by "freelancers" and then sold in repurposed boxes and labels. Those aren't terrible cigars, but definitely not great.

I'll try those 2 you mentioned and see if it's to my taste. Dona Flor, made in Brazil, are pretty decent. Unfortunately they are not easy to come by near where I live.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> After spending a couple weeks in Cuba it’s not hard to see why. Which is the consequence of being sanctioned into oblivion for decades by the global hegemon, much to the dislike of the entire rest of the world.

Go to Cuba, you'll see why that take is absolutely silly.

Going to Cuba and talking to the Cubans made me realize how ridiculous American opinions on Cuba are.

They’re a wonderful people repressed by one of the world’s worst governments, and unlike, say, North Korea, they know it. They all have family in Florida. They are very aware of the outside world.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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In southern europe we call this "Brain drain". It's a global phenomenon it seems, freedom of movement leads to contentration of productive forces to a few global cities, while the rest of the planet is increasingly deserted

taken a step further, you can consider that cities have very lower birth rates compared to the country side, meaning the intelligent people move to the cities, where they will produce less offspring.

This leaves the gene pool itself deserted. Spandrell controversially wrote about this, calling cities "iq shredders".

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Sorry, but I don’t think families who escaped in those times were exactly just innocent property owners.

I guess that the million people who have escaped in the last couple of years are also guilty of something.

Yeah, we killed the mosquitoes that don't let us sleep and gave us Dengue every month because the gov can't provide electricity and if you protest you dissapear to jail

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%). Using the BJS statistics, the declines in the violent and property crime rates are even steeper than those captured in the FBI data. Per BJS, the U.S. violent and property crime rates each fell 71% between 1993 and 2022.…

“The data says otherwise” in aggregate, up to the year 2022. Posting aggregate stats just comes off iso a “gotcha” instead of a real discussion involving thought or context, both of which are needed in any discussion including data. There’s many angles someone could take this. You mentioned Fox News. They certainly don’t drone about crime in Little Rock — they complain about the “anarchist hellscape” of liberal citie…

> fwiw I love SF

How long can you leave your car parked outside before someone breaks the windows?

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