Western governments are already in full-on panic over falling birth rates. I think this cranks that panic dial up to 11.
Why ? Isn’t this the dream ? Endless growth and endless workers ? No one really cares about less people, just less money.
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#952Am I the only one that feels underwhelmed by this? yeah its cool and unlike anything ive seen before but I kind of expected a bigger leap. To me the most impressive thing is going to be longer context limits. I'd had semi long running conversations where ive had to correct an LLM multiple times about the same thing. when you have more context the LLM can infer more and more. Am I wrong about this?
The updates seem to all be geared towards corrective updates rather than expansion of capabilities. We're still typing prompts rather than speaking them into a microphone.
If it was truly Ai, why isn't it rapidly building itself? Rather than relying on scraping human content from wildly inaccurate and often incorrect social media posts? So much effort is wasted in trying to push news cycles rather than a careful, responsible, and measured approach to developing Ai into becoming tools that are highly functional and useful to individuals. The biggest innovation in Ai right now is how to make it modular and slap a fee on each feature, and that's not practical at all into the future.
I'll begin to believe that consume Ai is making strides when Siri and Google Assistant stop missing commands, and actually can conduct meaningful conversations without an Internet connection and monthly software updates, which in my opinion is at least 5-10 years away. Right now what is presented as "Ai" is usually often incomplete sensor-aware scripting or the wizard of Oz (humans) hidden behind the curtains operating switches and levers, a bunch of underwhelming tools, and a heap of online marketing. If they keep that act up, it erodes faith in the entire concept, just like with Full Self Driving Tesla Trucks.
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#954The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.
"Right" feelings and tonal language? "Right" for what? For whom ? We've already seen how much damage dishonest actors can do by manipulating our text communications with words they don't mean, plans they don't intend to follow through on, and feelings they don't experience. The social media disinfo age has been bad enough. Are you sure you want a machine which is able to manipulate our emotions on an even more granul…
This gives me a lot of anxiety but my only recourse is to stop paying attention to AI dev. Its not going to stop, downside be damned. The "We're working super hard to make these things safe" routine from tech companies, who have largely been content to make messes and then not be held accountable in any significant way, rings pretty hollow for me. I don't want to be a doomer but I'm not convinced that the upside is good enough to protect us from the downside.
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#955We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…
Siri comes off as impatient.
If you don’t complete your thought in one go, you have to insert filler words to keep it listening.
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#956future is coming
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#957I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.
Why do people beat up on Siri so much ? It does all the basic stuff I need it to do fine. Could it be better, yes. But it’s made my easier and safer while driving especially.
I’m not even sure if people who rag on it use it ?
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#958We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…
Is it new, or is it just a big jump forward?
The previous ChatAI app was getting pretty good once you learned the difference between run on sentences or breaking it up enough.
The tonality and inflections in the voice are a little too good.
Most people put on a spectrum/average aren't that good at speaking and communicating and that stands out as an uncanny valley approach. It is mindbogglingly good at it though.
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#959Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…
This makes me wonder: if you tell 4o something like "listen to me until I say all done" will it be able to suppress its output until it hears that? I'm guessing not quite possible now, just because I'm guessing patiently waiting is a different band of information that they haven't implemented. But I really don't know.
I don’t think so. The listening and responding isn’t being managed by an LLM. That’s just the app listening with a microphone and timer.
Stop talking for x sec = process response.
I bet the bot would wholeheartedly agree that it would definitely wait for you to finish talking, then just not do it. It doesn’t know anything about the app it’s “in.” At least at a deep level.
I agree that all this is impressive, but with odd, unclear bounds that sometimes confuse users.
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#960That woman's voice intonation is just scary .Not because it talks really well, but because it is always happy, optimistic, enthusiastic. And this echoes to what several of my employers idealized as a good employee. That's terrifying because those AI become what their master's think an engaging human should be. It's quite close to Bostondynamics di some years ago. what did they show ? You can hit a robot very hard whi…
The AI woman's voice is far too breathy and emotive. I instantly hate it and don't want to hear it. The AI has also copied one of my personal pet peeves, which is dropping or swallowing d's and t's from certain words, like "didn't" to "di-unt" and "important" to "impor-unt"--which I find to be a new unbearable laziness spreading amongst younger Americans today. There are TWO T's in important goddammit (I'll die on th…
Important is pronounced not with two hard t sounds, but with a glottal stop: Impor[glottal stop]ant. That's not laziness, that's my actual dialect of English spoken by actual adult people.