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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.

Results matter.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#952

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

OpenAI developers are redefining the state-of-the-art of AI each 6 months, if the company lose them they already can go bankrupt

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#953
Stop dreaming about alignment. All bets are off. This is the start of AI arms race. Think globally for a second. Yes, everybody wants to be a millionaire or billionaire. This is the current culture we are living in. Corporations have unprecedented power waved into the governments, but governments still have a monopoly on violence. People cannot switch to the new abstraction layer (UBI, Social Rating) for two or five years. They will keep a consumer-oriented mindset before the option to have one is erased. Where you think this is going? To a better Democracy? This is the Cold War V.2 scenario unfolding.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#954

With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.

OpenAI workers has shown their plain support to their CEO by threatening to follow him wherever he wants, I personaly think their collective judgement on him is worth more than any rumors

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#956

Google, Meta and now OpenAI. So long, responsible and safety AI guardrails. Hello, big money. Disappointed by the outcome, but perhaps mission-driven AI development -- the reason OpenAI was founded -- was never possible. Edit: I applaud the board members for (apparently, it seems) trying to stand up for the mission (aka doing the job that they were put on the board to do), even if their efforts were doomed.

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#957

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

more like $$ wins. It's clear most employees didn't care much about OpenAI's mission -- and I don't blame them since they were hired by the __for-profit__ OpenAI company and therefore aligned with __its__ goals and rewarded with equity. In my view the board did the right thing to stand by OpenAI's original mission -- which now clearly means nothing. Too bad they lost out. One might say the mission was pointless since…

Where we are today is a world where people do not generally worry about nuclear bombs being dropped. So seems like a pretty good outcome in that example.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#958

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

Ilya signed the letter saying he would resign if Sam wasn't brought back. Looks like he regretted his decision and ultimately got played by the 2 departing board members.

Ilya is also not a developer, he's a founder of OpenAI and was the CSO.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#960

Some perspective ... One developer (Ilya) vs. One businessman (Sam) -> Sam wins Hundreds of developers threaten to quit vs. Board of Directors (biz) refuse to budge -> Developers win From the outside it looks like developers held the power all along ... which is how it should be.

It’s a cost / benefit analysis.

If people are easily replaceable then they don’t hold nearly as much power, even en mass.

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