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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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I find it fascinating how this occurred just after the big World Leader / CEO meet in SF.

Also, the paradox in the reactions to Sam Altman's firing is striking:

while there's surprise over it, the conversation here focuses mostly on its operational impact, overlooking the human aspect.

This oversight itself seems to answer why it happened – if the human element is undervalued and operations are paramount, then this approach not only explains the firing but also suggests that it shouldn't be surprising.

Another important question not discussed here: who sits on the board of OpenAI exactly and in full?

Another important aspect: The Orwellian euphemism used in the official announcement^0: “Leadership transition”. Hahaha :) Yes, I heard they recently had some "leadership transitions" in Myanmar, Niger and Gabon, too. OpenAI announces “leadership transition” is November 2023’s “Syria just had free and fair elections”

0: https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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post #801

From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2] "In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.” Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Broc…

So they didn't even give Altman a chance to defend himself for supposedly lying (inconsistent candour as they put it.) Wow.

He may have had ample chance before.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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post #801

From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2] "In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.” Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Broc…

So they didn't even give Altman a chance to defend himself for supposedly lying (inconsistent candour as they put it.) Wow.

Why would employees be consulted begore being fired?

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#956

OpenAI will now be run by GPT-5.

This is just a joke of course, but there is an underlying thought. The goal of OpenAI is to develop AGI and Ilya Sutskever will keep OpenAI on this course, as a research company, until this goal has been reached. To me this just says that they haven’t reached the goal yet and that the forces that were pulling away from that goal have been dealt with.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#957

Ilya booted him https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725702501435941294

This should be higher voted. Seems like an internal power struggle between the more academic types and the commercial minded sides of OpenAI. I bet Sam goes and founds a company to take on OpenAI…and wins.

Define "wins".

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#959

Greg Brockman sharing the timeline on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594?s=46&t=Nn...

Copy-pasted here for posterity:

Greg Brockman @gdb

Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today.

Let us first say thank you to all the incredible people who we have worked with at OpenAI, our customers, our investors, and all of those who have been reaching out.

We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened. Here is what we know:

- Last night, Sam got a text from Ilya asking to talk at noon Friday. Sam joined a Google Meet and the whole board, except Greg, was there. Ilya told Sam he was being fired and that the news was going out very soon.

- At 12:19pm, Greg got a text from Ilya asking for a quick call. At 12:23pm, Ilya sent a Google Meet link. Greg was told that he was being removed from the board (but was vital to the company and would retain his role) and that Sam had been fired. Around the same time, OpenAI published a blog post.

- As far as we know, the management team was made aware of this shortly after, other than Mira who found out the night prior.

The outpouring of support has been really nice; thank you, but please don’t spend any time being concerned. We will be fine. Greater things coming soon.

10:42 PM · Nov 18, 2023

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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#960
Follow the GPU.

- Sam Altman _briefly_ went on record saying that openAI was extremely GPU constrained. Article was quickly redacted.

- Most recent round literally was scraping the bottom of the barrel of the cap table: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/thrive-capital-to-le...

- Plus signups paused.

If OpenAI needs gpu to succeed, and can't raise any more capital to pay for it without dilution/going past MSFT's 49% share of the for-profit entity, then the corporate structure is hampering the company's success.

Sam & team needed more GPU and failed to get it at OpenAI. I don't think it's any more complex than that.

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