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Re: Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

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Post by microtonal »

908B64B197 wrote: post #809
microtonal wrote: post #488

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Electronics prices in the EU are simply crazy. I did these calculations a while back on various Mac models and the price difference was actually not that large. The US prices are without VAT. Add the 19 or 21% of VAT that is typical for EU countries and it's almost the same. The difference grew a bit, because the Euro became a bit stronger relative to the USD since Apple made their last announcements. mini-PC that wo…

> Add the 19 or 21% of VAT that is typical for EU countries and it's almost the same. These taxes seem punitive. For essential goods such as computers, that seems way too high.

Seems completely fair to me? A good computer lasts many years, the cost (outside Macs) has gone down a lot and you can get a second hand computer at very low prices. Also a lot of other tech-related costs are much lower here than compared to e.g. the US, like much more affordable broadband internet.

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Post by oceanplexian »

_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #768
rank0 wrote: post #634

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The US spends the majority of its budget on social welfare programs. Gun violence is a tiny fraction of death/injury here. You’re much more likely to die in a car accident.

Firearms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens - higher than motor vehicle deaths. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

"Gun violence is the leading cause of death between 1 and 19 years of age" So why did the study chose such a specific age range?

Cut it off at 18 and it wouldn't work, since it would exclude gang violence. Start it at birth and it also wouldn't work, since the statistic would include infant mortality. Unfortunately, that would debunk the fact that gun violence is a widespread problem in the US, rather than something that's happening exclusively in a few poorly run municipalities with excessive levels of poverty, violence, and organized crime.

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Post by wickedsickeune »

oceanplexian wrote: post #952
_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #768

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Firearms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens - higher than motor vehicle deaths. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

"Gun violence is the leading cause of death between 1 and 19 years of age" So why did the study chose such a specific age range? Cut it off at 18 and it wouldn't work, since it would exclude gang violence. Start it at birth and it also wouldn't work, since the statistic would include infant mortality. Unfortunately, that would debunk the fact that gun violence is a widespread problem in the US, rather than something…

What does it mean to "sell" gun control (I get that you mean "promote")? Can someone profit from it and how?

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Post by gniv »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #590
wkat4242 wrote: post #435

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> AND a culture that's always willing to accommodate new people. Try getting a green card even as a trained European. Good luck :) Not that I'd ever be interested in living in the US. I prefer a country with a decent social security safety net and socialized healthcare. And where people can't just run around carrying guns. Spain is not perfect but I have way fewer things to worry about here. So I can relax and enjoy…

You are buying into a distorted image of the typical US population experience. Access to healthcare is pretty much instant and high quality for all but the very bottom of the society. 85%+ of the population can get an appointment within a day or two and if it’s urgent can access numerous urgent care clinics with almost no wait. Best I can tell for many European countries the situation is significantly worse in terms…

Having moved from a dense hcol area of the US to a dense hcol area of France, my experience has been that 1) I have access to specialists with less than a week wait in both places, but 2) costs in France are much lower than US.

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Post by hardware2win »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20
KptMarchewa wrote: post #14

M1 generation was so good that it prompted way more users to jump to it; that demand would spread over multiple generations if it was not so good. On the other hand purposefully gimping M1 would gimp ARM adoption. By delivering great performance, they've build up a lot of goodwill - people willingly port their stuff to macs.

I'm on an M1 MacBook Pro, and had to check settings to remember it's almost three years old. Zero issues, performs wonderfully, probably going to keep for at least another two.

Uh, but it should be or is the norm?

Which laptop or pc is dying after 3 years?

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Post by faeriechangling »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #887
kevviiinn wrote: post #880

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Xenophobia and racism prevents that

> Xenophobia and racism prevents that Huh? My understanding is the US scores lowest of any country on objective measures of both. Which country has less Xenophobia and racism? People throw out Canada often but I believe empirically that is false.

Canada explicitly legalized racism so long as it’s done for equity purposes. In America the same laws would be unconstitutional and immigrants of all types coming to the country on a regular basis. This is a country where the median income of several immigrant groups outstrips that of the local population despite factors such as nepotism.

Define racism I suppose. Is racism inequality or inequity?

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Post by oceanplexian »

softsound wrote: post #944
buzzert wrote: post #810

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Suicide is often included as a cause of death to intentionally distort this statistic: > From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (_suicide_, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% If you control for this, and include rates of homicide using other means of destruction (i.e., explosives or knives), it starts to look a lot m…

Shouldn't that number be concerning 30% of children deaths are from guns? Suicide or not, doesn't that seem concerning? Hmm... Some people say it's the top way children die now by gun. I remember growing up and having active shooter drills in elementary school but it's nothing like they are now. I think we are one of the few countries where children dieing by firearm has increased 46% in the last twenty years or so.…

It is concerning. But not for the reasons the media makes it out to be.

Only 0.18% of all gun homicides were committed during a mass shooting. https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2022/05/debunking-every-maj.... The chances of you being killed in a shooting are less than being struck by lightning. If you don't plan on joining a gang, frequenting a bad part of Baltimore or St. Louis, or committing suicide, it becomes orders of magnitude less likely, to the point where you're no less safe in the USA than any other country.

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Post by carlmr »

paxys wrote: post #406
carlmr wrote: post #316

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>so people buy their imaginary currency. While I think you're correct regarding the crypto bros, every fiat currency is imaginary.

The US government and US military are very far from imaginary.

It's collective imagination of the worth of the US dollar.

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Post by aembleton »

nerdjon wrote: post #677
mattrighetti wrote: post #255

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I bought an M2 a couple of months ago, coming from an i9 16". Oh boy, I know what it is like to have a hot machine :sigh:. The Intel version was stuck at 70C in idle, which is nuts. I think that that was probably the main reason of the switch.

I did the exact same upgrade! The difference is just insane from a thermal standpoint (plus then you mix in how this thing runs laps around my 16" while staying cooler). And it isn't just the MacBook Pro line, I have a gaming laptop is horrible to use actually on my lap. I tried pushing the new m2 MBP with some video rendering and it did not break a sweat (literally). It does kinda feel like the bar was a bit low for…

> it did not break a sweat (literally).

Good. Laptops shouldn't sweat

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Post by aembleton »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #720
pigsty wrote: post #30

The dollar is insanely strong right now and global Mac prices raised in accordance with that. In places that don’t use USD, prices shot up by tens of percent overnight while the US prices are the same as ever. Japan, for example, got a price increase of about 40% on all items. Unsurprisingly, sales declined.

MacBooks aren't made in the US, so the strength of the US dollar has nothing to do with it (except to make the dollar cost of producing them go down).

The design, software and marketing are done in the US though
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