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Post by rootusrootus »

wolverine876 wrote: post #913
rootusrootus wrote: post #764

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just got off a short pre-interview conversation with a manager at Instagram and he had to dial in with POTS. I got the impression that things are very broken internally.

This person has a POTS line in their current location, and a modem, and the software stack to use it, and Instagram has POTS lines and modems and software that connect to their networks? Wow. How well do Instagram and their internal applications work over 56K?

He called on his mobile phone. As a result it was a voice-only conversation, no video.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by cavisne »

gunshai wrote: post #887

Posting this comment will be like farting into a hurricane, but here goes. Company like Facebook has a serious problem and their stock drops ... precipitously. CEO of said company instead of selling their equity in their company has taken out loans against their equity in order to decrease their tax burden and cash in on the value of their equity. What amount of decrease would cause a margin call from lenders for the…

It's happened [1] but for it to happen to a company with the structure of Facebook a lot of things would have to go wrong.

For starters Zuck owns Class B shares which have 10x the votes of Class A shares. I'm sure a bank would happily loan him money against his Class B shares, but any forced liquidation would involve a transfer to Class A shares. Zuck could lose a lot of shares and still maintain control of the company.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-board-struggles-with-its-ceos...

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by dschiavu »

guidopallemans wrote: post #476
kossTKR wrote: post #291

Reddit r/Sysadmin user that claims to be on the "Recovery Team" for this ongoing issue: > As many of you know, DNS for FB services has been affected and this is likely a symptom of the actual issue, and that's that BGP peering with Facebook peering routers has gone down, very likely due to a configuration change that went into effect shortly before the outages happened (started roughly 1540 UTC). There are people now…

He just deleted all his updates. user: https://old.reddit.com/user/ramenporn some messages: * This is a global outage for all FB-related services/infra (source: I'm currently on the recovery/investigation team). * Will try to provide any important/interesting bits as I see them. There is a ton of stuff flying around right now and like 7 separate discussion channels and video calls. * Update 1440 UTC: \ As many of you…

It's time to decentralize and open up the Internet again, as it once was (ie. IRC, NNTP and other open protocols) instead of relying on commercial entities (Google, Facebook, Amazon) to control our data and access to it.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by yourad_io »

yourad_io wrote: post #684
megous wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only the news reporting was not as stupid as "internet is not working at UPC", instead of DNS resolvers at UPC crashed, here's what you can do... Anyway, I didn't even notice since I run knot-resolver at home. I wonder what it will be like connecting Facebook back to the internet, thundering herd and everything...

I suspect that the DNS aspect will be fine. The middle DNS servers only need one valid response to cache it for $TTL, but they can't cache SERVFAIL.

> but they can't cache SERVFAIL.

Correction: according to Cloudflare's blog post, some do cache errors as well.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by mlindner »

dschiavu wrote: post #953
guidopallemans wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He just deleted all his updates. user: https://old.reddit.com/user/ramenporn some messages: * This is a global outage for all FB-related services/infra (source: I'm currently on the recovery/investigation team). * Will try to provide any important/interesting bits as I see them. There is a ton of stuff flying around right now and like 7 separate discussion channels and video calls. * Update 1440 UTC: \ As many of you…

It's time to decentralize and open up the Internet again, as it once was (ie. IRC, NNTP and other open protocols) instead of relying on commercial entities (Google, Facebook, Amazon) to control our data and access to it.

I'll throw in Discord into that mix, the thing that basically mostly killed IRC. Which is yet again centralized despite pretending that it is not centralized.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by ultrarunner »

simonklitj wrote: post #917
kblev wrote: post #879

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"Sorry, something went wrong. Facebook © 2020"

Yes, even Facebook falls prey to the wrong copyright year. Anyway, I got further now to a page that says "Account Temporarily Unavailable." and has the old Facebook layout. Would love a peek inside the Facebook codebase to see how this happens, hah!

Definitely not recent, but you might find this interesting nonetheless: https://gist.github.com/nikcub/3833406

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by karlzt »

saltyfamiliar wrote: post #853
MrYellowP wrote: post #642

I keep trying to submit to HN but I keep getting an error. What's wrong with the internet? FaceBook is down. My friend from Slovenia is having trouble with discord. It eats his messages. I can't load photos from my friend in telegram and the messages take a relatively long time - multiple seconds! - to get received. TrackMania players have talked about having input lag. ycombinator is really slow and reports an error…

I'm having issues with telegram as well. Images won't send and the app continuously says "updating" on the top status bar. How could facebook dns issues cause this?

Because everyone is using Telegram instead of Whatsapp due to WA being down.

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Post by ozfive »

Edman274 wrote: post #870
CommieBobDole wrote: post #791

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The only one they have is serial and the company's one usb-to-serial converter is missing.

The voices, stories, announcements, photos, hopes and sorrows of millions, no, literally billions of people, and the promise that they may one day be seen and heard again now rests in the hands of Dave, the one guy who is closest to a Microcenter, owns his own car and knows how to beat the rush hour traffic and has the good sense to not forget to also buy an RS-232 cable, since those things tend to get finicky.

Great visual!

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by gunshai »

cavisne wrote: post #952
gunshai wrote: post #887

Posting this comment will be like farting into a hurricane, but here goes. Company like Facebook has a serious problem and their stock drops ... precipitously. CEO of said company instead of selling their equity in their company has taken out loans against their equity in order to decrease their tax burden and cash in on the value of their equity. What amount of decrease would cause a margin call from lenders for the…

It's happened [1] but for it to happen to a company with the structure of Facebook a lot of things would have to go wrong. For starters Zuck owns Class B shares which have 10x the votes of Class A shares. I'm sure a bank would happily loan him money against his Class B shares, but any forced liquidation would involve a transfer to Class A shares. Zuck could lose a lot of shares and still maintain control of the compa…

This was the reply I was really looking for, thank you.
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