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More likely than not, they'll just move the goalposts farther and find a different excuse for not getting it.
Even if true, so what? It's their bodies. They should be allowed to choose, just like you are.
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I recent came across a technique for having a more substantial discussion and it was to ask: "Well, what would it take for you to change your mind?" Not that this is a silver bullet that automatically leads to peace and harmony, but it's a step in the right direction.
Why does this technique change anything? You are still assuming the supposed superior position, since you imply that the stance of your discussion partner is wrong and needs to be changed. Dont you see how patronising this is?
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It's true that systematic surveillance of vaccine side effects is poor. For example, even when HPV vaccination of teenage girls became a thing, one of the obvious side effects you'd guess will freak out teenage girls (changes in menstruation) wasn't tracked very well. We genuinely don't know beyond "Clearly not drastic enough that it caused significant medical problems" whether this is something that was noticeable a…
One other reason more studies would be useful, is that for the person I know, this happened after the first dose. That means that at the moment there's just no reasonable way to decide whether it's safe to get a second dose or not. If there were studies that would show that almost nobody has a lasting head pain post vaccination, then one could conclude it's probably just a super weird coincidence, and take a risk wit…
That's one of the topics in this video, https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-thes...
[Posted in case it provides a data point for your friend to discuss with a local doctor, not to debate this doctor's affiliation, credentials or motivation. Would love to see more presentations of physical evidence from autopsies and lab tests, to complement statistical studies.]
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"Clinical studies from Israel, the Cleveland Clinic, England and elsewhere have demonstrated beyond a doubt that natural immunity to SARS-CoV-2 provides robust and durable protection against reinfection comparable to or better than that provided by the most effective vaccines." source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccine-mandate-natural-immunit... (Referenced studies are linked in the article). Why should people who…
Why does reduction in death/hospitalization/severe illness keep being interpreted as "no gain" by the skeptics?
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What makes those angry people who have been in lockdown for so long think that taking the vaccine will allow us go back to normal? See these articles: https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-sho... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-21/science-c...
> "Limited data not enough to draw conclusions" Media fearmongering about Delta doesn't change anything. The reality is that places which have very high vaccination rates have been able to return much more to normal. And all evidence points to the more people get vaccinated, the sooner things will return entirely to normal
My biggest concern now is around seeing those who hedged their willingness to get the vaccine on its approval instead find a new reason not to get it. So with that in mind, I'm much more keen on seeing how employers will decide on vaccination mandates now that at least one vaccine is fully approved. Any news yet on whether any more employers are likely implementing mandates (if they haven't already this morning) base…
"Clinical studies from Israel, the Cleveland Clinic, England and elsewhere have demonstrated beyond a doubt that natural immunity to SARS-CoV-2 provides robust and durable protection against reinfection comparable to or better than that provided by the most effective vaccines." source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccine-mandate-natural-immunit... (Referenced studies are linked in the article). Why should people who…
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Why does this technique change anything? You are still assuming the supposed superior position, since you imply that the stance of your discussion partner is wrong and needs to be changed. Dont you see how patronising this is?
This kind of fragility is hostile to rational discussions. There's no patronisation to asking somebody a question about their beliefs; it's literally just a question. If somebody asked me that, I would take it as an opportunity to really explore my beliefs, and think about what conditions would cause me to change my beliefs. It has nothing to do with the other person or their beliefs. We shouldn't encourage this kind…
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Why are you so obsessed with forcing vaccinations on people? Can't you just get vaccinated and enjoy your perceived safety?
Vaccinations are most effective if we reach herd immunity, which requires others to get vaccinated. The safety is not “perceived”, it’s scientifically verified by tracking hospitalization and death rates as it’s been rolled out at a global scale. The reason herd immunity is so important is that those that are immunocompromised _cannot_ safely get a vaccination and thus rely on there being enough vaccinated individual…
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"...instead find a new reason not to get it." Or continue an existing reason: "Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes."
As someone who has had both COVID (before vaccines were available) and a COVID vaccine, this reasoning seems frankly dumb as bricks. There is uncertainty about long-term effects of both. There is no uncertainty about the short-term effects of COVID, which are magnitudes worse than the short-term effects of a vaccine. COVID for me was a multi-week flu that scared the shit out of me because I didn't know how bad it wou…
Vaccine or not, you can still get covid and suffer the consequences depending on your body. So I dont see the point in getting a vaccine and suffer its long term consequences when it basically does nothing.
If you are saying it prevents covid death - you are wrong. Check England's data. More unvaccinated people are getting covid but they are dying less. Vaccinated people are getting covid less but the ones who died after getting covid are more. The math isn't adding up for the vaccines.
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How quickly we've gone from "comply to save just one life" to "laughing at their pathetic graves and funerals." Like... what the hell? Do we not see a problem here?
These people are psychotic. Literally, not hyperbolically. Society is going through a mass psychosis event and people need to seriously prepare to see (or be a victim of) the next major genocide in world history. Recommended: https://www.amazon.com/Affirming-Psychosis-Appeal-Adolf-Hitl...