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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by LinuxBender »

fornowiamhere wrote: post #941
concordDance wrote: post #918

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I don't see what the problem is with a 17 year old getting some money for posting pics... That's a lot of money they can earn. Claims about this "damaging" them seem about as speculative as 1960s claims that homosexual behaviour is damaging.

OK, let's say that 17 is fine. What about just a year younger? Maybe only 6 months? As a society(well, mostly), it was decided to draw it at 18. Where do YOU draw the line?

In my theoretical system, I would implement a testing process that determines if a person is mentally competent to make legal, financial, contractual and overall life decisions. The courts in the U.S. already do this under specific circumstances and can give a child limited recognition as an adult and that is determined entirely by a judge. I would just take it a step further and have a certification that would be noted on a state ID card rather than depending on specific legal circumstances. Generalizing a persons capabilities to make such decisions by biological age is problematic. Some people are not ready to make life altering decisions at their states/regions age of majority whereas some people are prepared to make such decisions sooner than others. This would not be perfect, but probably more scientific of a process than basing a decision on biological age. Who creates the test? Likely a panel of clinical psychologists, biologists, lawyers. Who administers the test? Schools for free, some job sites paid by employer, lawyers for a fee.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by TeMPOraL »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #328
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

> There is some level of dignity that everyone's entitled to. If someone does OF by choice because they love it, good for them. If someone is compelled to in order to feed their kids or leave an abusive partner, then we should all be ashamed of that.

Well, it's still more dignified than telemarketing - the worker, the viewers and the platform all benefit from the transaction, unlike telemarketing call centres, where the worker is paid to screw over people at scale. If you want an indictment of a society, I'd first focus on people being forced into jobs that involve hurting other people.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by smt88 »

smt88 wrote: post #341
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

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> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site, but let's not kid ourselves about PornHub. It was mostly pirated content with a lot of videos of people being harmed.

I need to amend my comment here. OF's model is legitimate and ethical (let people post media of themselves, rather than being pimped out by a porn production company).

Unfortunately, the company seems to be pretty morally bankrupt: https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/19/22633411/onlyfans-banned-...

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by Michaelfonzolo »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #857
throwaway5752 wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

I'm ashamed to participate in a society where anyone has to do work they find degrading. We have the technology to eliminate the you'll-starve-if-you-don't-work dynamic. It's heartbreaking that we don't also have the political will to do so.

Pardon my ignorance, but when was it ever about technology? Seems technological progress has done nothing to alleviate the starve-if-you-don't-work condition. Higher industrial efficiency in the 19th/early 20th centuries came with the promise of less work and more leisure, but that never arrived. I'm not sure why, but I'm guessing it's an economic/sociological problem, not a technological one. Curious to hear what ideas you have enough.

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Post by shalmanese »

observer23 wrote: post #692
adamcharnock wrote: post #427

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A number of my friends and loved ones will be affected by this, and many more have been thrown under the payment processing bus before. And forgive me if this seems ranty, but it isn’t just payment processors, it seems to permeate so much that comes out of the USA. See the various App Store rules too. And this isn’t about fraud rates. Because why are the fraud rates high? It’s because the sex whole industry is pushed…

China allows online porn and their citizens have no trouble with Chinese payment processors accepting purchases for porn.

China most definitely does not allow online porn. It's tolerated as an underground enterprise but explicitly illegal.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by FooBarBizBazz »

smokey_circles wrote: post #898
bamboozled wrote: post #809

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This is pretty stupid though, to throw away the business you have for the business you might have, there is heaps of porn on Twitter, looking at it is optional. Why can't it just co-exist with other "acceptable" content ? I would imagine it's very trivial to have a "Show me explicit content" setting. Edit: Side note, I don’t know why porn is so shameful, especially concerning adults posting high quality content, it’s…

>Side note, I don’t know why porn is so shameful Is it really such a mystery? Mostly every religion prohibits sexual freedom and most every government has deeply religious members in the legislature. There is no separation of the church's morals and political ones. Which means yes, I'm suggesting a ban on religion in the political space. I don't mean you can't be a politician if you're religious, I mean you should be…

> I'm suggesting a ban on religion in the political space.

Religions are just old ideologies centered on an anthropomorphic metaphor. It's not possible to exist without ideology -- even if it's something neoliberal and pared-down.

And, people will create institutions to provide them with additional structure, if the State isn't giving it to them. They'll organize around a priest, or a VP of DEI; they'll choose a holy book (Atlas Shrugged, the Koran, Das Kapital), and so on. And, lo and behold, those alternative structures will start coercing people too.

> prohibits sexual freedom

The older I get, the more I think "freedom" is a trap. What is the alcoholic's freedom to drink? The procrastinator's freedom to watch YouTube videos?

Odysseus, before sailing past the Sirens, was wise enough to ask his sailors to tie him to the mast.

I know you say you're self-motivated, but how many of you would really accomplish much without at least a little pressure from a boss, from perf review, or from your peers at least? "But I'm the CEO!", you say. Well, do you ever work harder as you prep for a board meeting?

I will do a dangerous thing now and, although essentially secular, make an Old Testament reference: What of Onan's freedom from responsibility for Tamar (i.e., his choice to leave her abandoned after Er's death), freedom from responsibility for the children he would have had with her? (People have myopically and stupidly focused on the "mechanics" of that story while missing the point.)

What if the consequences of your "freedom" don't hit you for many years? What if, as an individual, you simply don't have enough time in your life to make the mistake and learn from it?

I know a few people who were "free" to completely fuck up their lives, and they're belatedly figuring it out now, usually when it's too late.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by ziml77 »

conductr wrote: post #801
wonderwonder wrote: post #533

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I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

My understanding of it was purely regarding porn. Or, as an open platform focusing on paid user generated content which naturally was a cesspool for porn. Interesting enough, after a debate about would you date a girl who had an OF account, I went decided to visit browse site last week and couldn't find anything other than highly sexually provocative but legit sounding channels. Mostly of the fitness type because yog…

They're probably not promoting the pornographic content because they don't want that to be their brand. The way to end up on the porn is to be following someone on another platform who is either already posting dirty content on that platform and now wants to monetize it or by following someone who is popular for some other reason but then realizes they can get a lot more money out of their fanbase by selling nudes.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by banannaise »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #877
skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I read that sex-workers have lost their livelihood during the pandemic due to lockdowns and have become more vulnerable. Then I read the interview of Aella, A OnlyFans creator making 5-figures on IndieHackers[1]. I always felt porn was an exploitative business so was never into it, But I gained respect for OnlyFans as a platform because it enabled people to move from dangerous, risky work to relatively safe work. As…

Aella already had a monetized following prior to onlyfans. She is not representative of the potential of a new content creator.
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