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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mike00632 »

cbozeman wrote: post #457
nkrisc wrote: post #325

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I don't know what people think, we can't read their minds. All I know is if you wanted to find people who want mass executions in the US, Parler would be a safe place to find them, based on what we do know about them.

What are "people like you"? Facebook and Twitter have millions of people who want mass executions for all kinds of groups, a quick trip into Muslim areas of both services and you'll find moderate and right-wing versions that want execution for LGBTQ+ people. You can find the same desire for marginalization and extermination of other groups. Not every language and dialect has a huge team of moderators that review cont…

Parler will not be the next Twitter.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by im3w1l »

mabbo wrote: post #8

This story truly terrifies me: my team owns my company's sign up page. (I speak for myself and not them, of course). Sounds like Parler, fearing that their OTP provider might go down, decided to fail-open, ie: if the dependency throws an exception, presume there's something wrong with the dependency and that the code provided is acceptable. It never occurred to them that the dependency could be down permanently, or t…

I was told that if twitter wouldn't have me I should join Parler. But now I learn you are all cheering for Parler being hacked? I don't understand, should I use Parler or not?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mike00632 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #418
jacquesm wrote: post #394

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The Pulse nightclub is not typically associated with being a seat of government, though I don't doubt that people in government have been seated there. On 9/11 there was a plan set in motion to crash a plane in to the Capitol, which only failed because of the bravery of the passengers in that plane. Incidentally, the very same Capitol self described 'patriots' broke into and vandalized last week.

> a legitimate 9/11 scale crisis So what made 9/11 have large scale was the (thwarted) plot to crash into the Capitol and the successful attack on the Pentagon? Not the 2600 killed in the WTC? This seems like a very twisted reading to compare two not-actually-that-similar events.

Around 4,000 people in the United States died prematurely yesterday due to COVID. 9/11 was a big deal because it attacked America's symbols. It altered the skyline of New York City, took down a side of the Pentagon and almost was able to crash into DC. The attack on January 6th acted in the same way. Yes, they killed fewer people but they attacked heart of America and the symbols of America.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mike00632 »

mleonhard wrote: post #486
mr_overalls wrote: post #365

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I don't care if my personal information was leaked. I followed discussions, posted a comment or two like, "What evidence do you have for that?" There seemed to be tons of other accounts that did the same, along with accounts by obvious Lefts who were there to troll. I highly doubt there will be blowback for the kind of participation I did. I am absolutely a privacy advocate. However, in the case where the continued e…

I don't understand your claim that terrorists are a threat to our democracy. As long as most of the people in the country believe in democracy, the country will continue to have democracy. The real threat to democracy is allowing leaders to stop following the democratic process. For example, on 02021-01-06, 147 congresspeople voted to throw out the votes from an entire state, even after their party had pursued the ap…

The attack last Wednesday was literally successful in preventing a vote about an election and you can't fathom how terrorism is a threat to democracy? Imagine if those two quick-thinking staffers didn't grab the electoral votes and take them to the bunkers.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by AniseAbyss »

jandrese wrote: post #878
boringg wrote: post #584

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I wonder how he would feel about Sect 230 getting rolled back. Parler would be down and out (that said it's down and out right now). For clarity I don't support changing 230.

There is a difference between being deplatformed by AWS and being served thousands of lawsuits at once.

Maybe AWS wants to preempt those lawsuits by just ridding themselves of the headache? Don't blame them. Amazon is not in the "hosting controversial content for shits and giggles" business.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mkl »

saagarjha wrote: post #866
mkl wrote: post #736

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HN doesn't start users shadow banned - just look for the green new-account usernames. Your account didn't start shadow banned either. Here's your first comment, visible to all: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162 New accounts are more likely to get shadow banned, especially if they post many comments with links or post inflammatory remarks.

Hacker News does start off many people with a shadowban–I know because I have vouched for many of these initial comments.

I have vouched for dead initial comments too, but usually there was a clear reason they were like that, like a link.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by djtriptych »

salawat wrote: post #894
djtriptych wrote: post #888

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Never OK but sometimes necessary. I'm sure you can at least imagine a scenario where it's appropriate to curtail speech to save lives, e.g. taking away an enemy combatant's comms, even if they're American. Liberty is always opposed to security. How free we are depends on how worried we are. That's always the case.

Ah, a Schneck apologist. Such a bore. By the way, lets look at some other circumstances: Suspension of habeas corpus. Abraham Lincoln, Civil War. Half of country wants to clock the other half. Total existential threat. WWI. Schneck v. United States. Cornerstone and terrible case for limiting free speech in order to silence opposition to the bloody draft. WWII:Japanese internment camps. Labor cracked down on for strik…

He means Schenck, not Schneck for anyone googling.

Obviously we disagree on what it means when an angry mob chants about hanging the VP, breaches one of the most secure buildings in the country, and swears to try again.

This is obviously not an existential threat to you, but it is to the majority of the country, and certainly to our institutions.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by daveevad »

jacquesm wrote: post #339
jaywalk wrote: post #295

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> the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 This is an absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing to say.

No, it is factually correct. They said 'since', not larger than. In the meantime, since 9/11 there have as far as I know it not been any larger attacks within the US on the United States itself. If you know of any then please correct me.

Perhaps the 2017 Congressional baseball shooting where 24 members were attacked and one nearly died?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by toofy »

frankfrankfrank wrote: post #849
rootusrootus wrote: post #818

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I feel bad for normal conservatives. They clearly exist, but they're getting quiet because the brand is severely tarnished right now. Then the only people talking are the Trump supporters, and the loop is reinforced.

I think you are mistaking something. Conservatism is not a brand. But what you are referring to is actually the vilification of the people who insist on wanting to keep (something they see as a right) what they have and built or was built for them by people who freely gave it to them. I suspect your misunderstanding of what conservatism is, is also a driving force that will destabilize things further because it is su…

I understand what you’re trying to say, but let’s remember, the position of many who want higher taxes is that a lot of things some of those conservatives “built” was actually built by someone else and they also heavily rely on a massive infrastructure that is built and maintained by all of us.

Those conservatives absolutely rely on other peoples stuff just as much as liberals.

It isn’t nearly as cut and dry as a couple small paragraphs in a forum may make it out to be.

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