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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Ive an iMac Pro from 2018, and thought it would be interesting to compare my Geekbench scores.

Single thread: 1015 Multi thread: 7508

M1 is far ahead of the 3.2Ghz Xeon in my machine single threaded and I suppose having double the cores(vs M1 Hi-po cores) helped me in that respect. The fact that I paid 5 grand vs a ~1500 dollar portable is not lost on me here...

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Outside HN like bubble circles, very few companies actually bother to buy AMD, and ARM is no match for servers, neither is Apple going to sell their chips to third parties. Intel can still do as many mistakes as they feel like it, and AMD better hold on to their game console deals.

This simply isn't true. I just spun up a new instance on Oracle cloud, and it came with AMD CPUs. If AMD is selling to cloud providers Intel is fucked.

I specifically stated outside HN bubble and AMD is worthless without access to Intel patents.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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> The M1 chip, which belongs to a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM, features a single-core score of 1687 and a multi-core score of 7433. According to the benchmark, the M1 has a 3.2GHz base frequency. > The Mac mini with M1 chip that was benchmarked earned a single-core score of 1682 and a multi-core score of 7067. > Update: There's also a benchmark for the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M1 chip and 16GB RAM that has a single-core…

The results seem a little weird but if remotely true then these machines are going to sell like cup cakes. Why would anyone (who is not forced) buy an Intel PC laptop when these are available and priced as competitive as they are?

Maybe they have to run enterprise software which does not get updated every year so they can't use MacOS. Or perhaps they want a fully featured copy of Office? Maybe they want to run an Active Directory network? Maybe they like having ports on their laptop

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why would it be only 1 external display? Can you not plug into a thunderbolt dock and use multiple external displays? I do exactly that with my 2012 MacBook Pro.

It's a limitation of the M1 chip apparently https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/11/11/how-apple-silicon...

That’s merely speculation as to why.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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It's not just outperforming the MacBook Pro. It's also blowing away the current 2020 top-end iMac, which has a 10-core Intel i9. And it's doing this while using more than an order of magnitude less power (10W vs. a TDP of 125W for that Intel part). That's stunning.

Without doubt, the Apple M1 has the highest single-threaded performance of any non-overclocked CPU, being a little faster than AMD Zen 3 and Intel Tiger Lake. Nevertheless, because Apple has chosen to not increase their manufacturing costs by including more big cores, the multi-threaded performance is not at all impressive, being lower than that of many much cheaper laptops using AMD Ryzen 7 4800U CPUs. So for any pr…

But given that M1 is clearly the basic CPU for low cost, thin-and-light devices, we can strongly infer that Apple’s next M chip will be significantly more capable. Chips with eight or more performance cores would be a certainty for the upper tier of laptops and iMacs.

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This is pretty crazy to see, even if the full story isn't clear yet. A base level MacBook Air is taking the crown of the best MacBook Pro. Wow. SVP Johny Srouji and all of the Apple hardware + silicon team have been smashing it for the past many years. For what it's worth, I have a fully specced out 16 inch MacBook Pro with the AMD Radeon Pro 5600m and even with that I'm regularly hitting 100% usage of the card, and…

Agreed that the vast majority of Hacker News comments about the M1 Macbook Air are very glass half empty.

This seems like a really cool piece of technology, and I'm kind of bummed that everyone is so cynical and pessimistic about everything these days (albeit understandably so).

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very treatable form of cancer Nope, he pretty much died right on time in terms of median life expectancy for his form of cancer: https://pancreas.imedpub.com/prognostic-factors-in-patients-...

Nope, that study is about survival of patients with his form of cancer and hepatic metastases. As far as I'm aware the cancer in Jobs was detected long before hepatic metastases.

This analysis disputes that, indicating that the metastases not only may have been present, but also that waiting 9 months likely didn't impact anything. Of course it's based on probabilities, so his individual circumstances may have been different, but it's certainly sufficient to avoid the harsh determination that the only reason he died was due to his own hesitation for modern treatments. Personally I think that delay was misguided as well, but it looks very possible that the final results would have been the same:

https://centerforhealthjournalism.org/blogs/2011/11/10/what-...

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Dell Inc. XPS 15 9575 vs MacBookAir10,1 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4654605?baselin... Opinion: Pretty and impressive story

The Intel chip in that comparison was released in Q1 2018, almost three years ago now. How is this a helpful comparison? https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/130411/...

The 2019 16” MBP (the one many pros will spring for) is still running the 9th gen intel. So a lot of people will either still have these chips, or will still be considering them in an upgrade.

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> Why would anyone (who is not forced) buy an Intel PC laptop when these are available and priced as competitive as they are? as a power user I will not be touching anything apple ARM until all my hundreds of software apps are certified to work exactly the same as on x86_64. i will not rely on rosetta to take care of this. i need actual testing. besides this, 8GB of RAM is how much a single instance of chrome uses. i…

They also doubled (!!!) the SSD speeds, at least according to their slides. Presumably swapping will be much more seamless, so I'm not sure low RAM would be a huge issue for most day to day tasks.

Yes, Apple SSDs are back on the leading edge, they were about half the speed of the fastest Gen4 SSDs.

Low RAM is still an issue with such fast SSDs, as someone who ran RAID0 Gen3 NVMe SSDs (so equivalent to what's in there).

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