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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by domano »

foldr wrote: post #636
domano wrote: post #579

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Does macOS handle memory in a way where it just lets RAM fill up to some point before actively doing something about it? Because on my 16gig Macbook 8 gigs are gone just with browsing & spotify.

They're not really "gone", they've just been put to use because there's no point in leaving RAM empty. You can do much more than run a browser and Spotify with 8GB of RAM.

Thanks, memory stats sure look different than with linux. Switched a short while back & was surprised, but that would explain it.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by domano »

snazz wrote: post #674
domano wrote: post #579

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Does macOS handle memory in a way where it just lets RAM fill up to some point before actively doing something about it? Because on my 16gig Macbook 8 gigs are gone just with browsing & spotify.

Yes. If you run vm_stat in the Terminal, you can see how few pages of RAM are actually left free at any given time. Modern operating systems aggressively cache files in RAM to improve performance. The green/yellow/red graph in the Memory tab of Activity Manager is the best way of seeing if you need more RAM at a glance. In my experience, macOS won't do any swapping in the green. In the yellow, the system is still pre…

Thanks for the hint!

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by Asmod4n »

Asmod4n wrote: post #168
AnonHP wrote: post #140

Apple mentioned in the event that these Macs will have hardware verified secure boot. Since I’m not very knowledgeable in this area, can someone explain (or even try to guess) what this would/could mean for running Linux on these? I use Macs way beyond Apple’s support timeframe with OS X/macOS, and Linux is the one that runs on some of the older Macs and provides adequate security and security related software update…

No Bootcamp for Apple Silicon Macs, you can't install any other Operating System on it. But you can run arm linux in a virtual machine.

Looks like you can supply your own unsigned kernel to boot something else.

kmutil lets you do it apparently: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/mN3Z2kfJWy/ and bputil lets you disable the signature checking of the kernel https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RwcT8stYMY/

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by ben_w »

matsemann wrote: post #888
ben_w wrote: post #882

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Not op, but my main laptop is a 2013 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM. It’s old enough to have developed dead pixels, the backlight is now noticeably uneven, the USB ports have become loose, several keys now only work unreliability, and it now does an emergency low power shutdown when the battery reports 55%. (Naturally this means it is now permanently plugged into mains power and an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse)…

Your use is probably shaped by the limit, though. I mean, a few tabs open in Chrome is easily a couple of GBs alone.

A few dozen tabs, as in often in the range of 24-60.

That one aspect never even seems problematic or limiting, and it’s not like I’m oblivious to all the other things wrong with such an old piece of hardware.

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Post by saagarjha »

lovelyviking wrote: post #933
saagarjha wrote: post #734

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Because it’s just creating e-waste, and if you do it enough they’ll stop selling you things.

This is intended. They should stop selling things that attack privacy and freedom of a person, or this concept is not your priority and you are ok to have computer controlled COMPLETELY by someone else, which means ZERO privacy? PS: Well, this one is downvoted too. Looks like some lost even a sense of what PERSONAL computer means. OK. Keep downvoting! it's a good strategy to silence someone when there are no valid ar…

They’ll stop selling the device to you or accepting your returns. So you haven’t really done much.

Also, people who complain about downvotes usually attract more. I’d suggest not doing that. Claims that there are “no valid arguments” against your position rather than nobody wanting to deal with you are, well, absurd.

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Post by saagarjha »

lovelyviking wrote: post #932
saagarjha wrote: post #814

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Buying and returning is just a petty, wasteful thing to do.

and degrating Personal Computer into machine under control of someone else, attacking rights of the person and stripping people from privacy completely is not a wasteful thing to do? I mean, it's a garbage by defintion and sure, it takes time for people to understand this, but this machine is useless by design for freedom respecting society, it's not a waste? it's a huge waste of resources I would say. Returning prod…

Dude, you’re arguing about control to the wrong person. Apple knows about this already and you returning a bunch of devices isn’t going to get them to change their policy.

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Post by saagarjha »

amelius wrote: post #869
saagarjha wrote: post #734

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Because it’s just creating e-waste, and if you do it enough they’ll stop selling you things.

So the e-waste stops the moment they stop selling us junk?

It is greatly reduced when you stop buying things and returning them so they need to refurbish it.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by 8ytecoder »

slg wrote: post #625
tiffanyh wrote: post #445

I don't understand the pricing of the MacBook Air vs the 13" Pro. The Air ($1249) vs 13" Pro ($1299), you get: - same CPU - same GPU - same Neural chip - same RAM (8gb) - More storage for the Air (512gb vs 256gb with 13" Pro) - You get Touch Bar with 13" Pro So if you don't care about the Touch Bar, you actually get with the Air: - better specs - smaller device footprint - and $50 cheaper. Am I missing something?

Here[1] is an article from The Verge that goes into the full differences with confirmation from Apple. For those too lazy to click through, yes the fan is the biggest difference. Beyond that the screen in the Air is slightly darker, the base model has worse chips due to binning, the battery is smaller, and there is obviously the Touchbar. [1] - https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/10/21559228/apple-new-macbo...

I was astonished to see that their weights are now within 0.2kg of each other. I usually get the air because it’s light.
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